file new circle member - submission blood brothers

21 Aug 2017 11:57 #83171 by snegiem
New circle recruit
Blood brother master
3 pools
choose an unique sabbat blood brother you control. This card represents a sterile non unique blood brother with the same sect, circle, disciplines and one less capacity as the chosen blood brother. Move up to one blood to him from any other members of the same circle.

In fact this card is not so much of a new card as it is the draft text of the blood brother master thicker than pool
cost was increased by one and that it was given the opportunity to give the fledging some blood from his comrades...
I left as the original text for the disciplines as g5 crypt for example has a very different variety of disciplines other than the classical fortitude potence sanguinus ones...
"Choose a unique sabbat blood brother" was designed to cap the capacity of the fledging as angelo cannot be targeted, cap maximum is 6 (globally torrance circle members)... and to avoid to give more powers to the hermanas.it avoids also tricks with mata hari and limit weird disciplines combo with would be anarch blood brother decks.

Game use: at the moment the main strategies are with the blood brothers:
- rush backward as almost no intercept nor bounce exist for them.. and then bleed with walk of caine
- hermanas are just a little different as they swarm bleed after the rush
- kiev circle is more stealth bleed with few or no rush but rather combat ends (earth meld)
This card allows to make a surprise effect as to have another vampire appearing during the master phase and able to make actions (if he has enough blood): rush, bleed, rescue from torpor, ... or just to be ready to chump block a non stealth action.

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23 Aug 2017 16:28 #83193 by jblacey
How about this?

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Name: New Brother
Cardtype: Master
Cost: 3 pool
Capacity: See text
Discipline: See text
Clan: :bbro:
Choose a ready unique Blood Brother you control. Put this card into play. This card represents a non-unique sterile Blood Brother with the same sect, circle, capacity, and disciplines as the chosen Blood Brother. You may move a blood from the chosen Blood Brother to this card.

Game need: This card is the draft text of the Blood Brother master Thicker than Blood. Cost was increased by one and that it was given the opportunity to give the fledgling some blood from his comrades.

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These are my personal thoughts:
1) You don't need to reduce their capacity. The created vampire would be a duplicate, not a child of the unique vampire.
2) If the goal is to prevent duplicates of duplicates, then make the card specify unique Blood Brothers and have the created Blood Brothers be non-unique. You don't need anything else.
3) Specifying unique Sabbat Blood Brother in the choose requirement doesn't make the card better or prevent abuse by vampires like Mata Hari, who can mimic sect as well as clan.
4) If you are concerned about Anarch Blood Brothers, then don't have it copy the sect. Default sect for Blood Brothers is Sabbat. However, I feel compelled to point out that it seems unlikely that Anarch Blood Brothers would a problem.
5) It doesn't thematically make sense that any Blood Brother could move blood to the new Blood Brother other than the chosen unique Blood Brother.

Hope this helps.

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