New Rules for Final ?

KevinM wrote:

extrala wrote:

It would be nice if the players wouldn't know the ranking before the finals (other that they're being finalists). Random seating implied of course. So their would be less incentive to stall for the top seed.

Stalling is illegal. How many times does this need to be said?

"But KevinM, judges can't always tell if it's stalling, so we need more rules!"

Then those judges are weak and should be replaced by better judges.

Hey! I'm currently unemployed, and I'm able to tell, in every case -- yes, in every case -- when stalling is happening. So I propose that the VEKN employ me to judge every tournament everywhere in the world and train judges as I go. That way, in about a year, no one anywhere will ever again be able to stall and get away with it, as they evidently are doing right now.

Kevin, if the ever happens, I demand you utilize a bludgeoning impliment of some kind into warning players against stalling. "Play fast or Mergen Will beat you with a spatula!"

ReverendRevolver wrote:

Kevin, if the ever happens, I demand you utilize a bludgeoning impliment of some kind into warning players against stalling. "Play fast or Mergen Will beat you with a spatula!"

If only this could be translated into every European language. We could eliminate this problem for all time.

100% against that swiss round thing.
I think final is a special spot, and it needs to stay the way it is.
Final represents the 5 best players of this tournament, at this time - even if we can argue about seating luck, or draw, or whatever - they are the players that did their best with all the parameters available at their tables.

They deserve to be in that spot.

KevinM wrote:

ReverendRevolver wrote:

Kevin, if the ever happens, I demand you utilize a bludgeoning impliment of some kind into warning players against stalling. "Play fast or Mergen Will beat you with a spatula!"

If only this could be translated into every European language. We could eliminate this problem for all time.

Could we add into the tournament rules an additional punishment called "Mergen (v)". A punishment which involved having KJM here travel with a wooden spoon encrusted with rusted nails to dole out such a 'Mergen'. "You are stalling, that means we'll have to Mergen you."

Pyrocuror wrote:

100% against that swiss round thing.
I think final is a special spot, and it needs to stay the way it is.
Final represents the 5 best players of this tournament, at this time - even if we can argue about seating luck, or draw, or whatever - they are the players that did their best with all the parameters available at their tables.

They deserve to be in that spot.

They still would be in that spot Pyrocuror... the only change is that for instance for those who share a car with the "real" finalist, they will be playing too...
And of course the "Prize" and ranking will go tothe first Finalists winner, except if there is no winner...

And there won t be Finals lasting more than two hours, because every one will be playing a 3 or 4 rounds tournament...

So more fun to anyone and an incentive for the first table to kill before the second one...

And for acbishop objection, of course we will have to make the first and the second table 5 players' table, as usual in tourneys with these unlucky numbers...

I don't see any advantage of playing the swiss final round, if we want to remove the final round it seems better to just play a 4th normal round and let the highest score after that win.