Simple Questions Part 1
31 Dec 2012 13:28 #43490
by Jeff Kuta
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Great questions, MV.
I will just state here that Johannes Walch is the Chairman of the VEKN and he is also the same person who is publicly part of an effort to bring V:TES to POD. Hugh says "The VEKN will stay separate from any business related activities...", but he has no official standing within the V:EKN as a spokesperson, though he is quite involved as UK National Coordinator and has been Playtest Coordinator. I understand the need for someone to respond, but there's only one person who can really officially provide the proper details, if any, about the true relationship between V:EKN and POD.
I will just state here that Johannes Walch is the Chairman of the VEKN and he is also the same person who is publicly part of an effort to bring V:TES to POD. Hugh says "The VEKN will stay separate from any business related activities...", but he has no official standing within the V:EKN as a spokesperson, though he is quite involved as UK National Coordinator and has been Playtest Coordinator. I understand the need for someone to respond, but there's only one person who can really officially provide the proper details, if any, about the true relationship between V:EKN and POD.
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31 Dec 2012 14:27 - 31 Dec 2012 14:28 #43494
by Lönkka
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Score one for the "oppressed"!
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01 Jan 2013 13:35 #43499
by Squidalot
Not really Jeff it's fairly simple the VEKN doesn't have any legal status or £/$/€ so it can't be involved in bringing something into print directly, it can encourage someone/something else to do it for the community but it won't directly be funding or signing contracts of any sort.
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Great questions, MV.
I will just state here that Johannes Walch is the Chairman of the VEKN and he is also the same person who is publicly part of an effort to bring V:TES to POD. Hugh says "The VEKN will stay separate from any business related activities...", but he has no official standing within the V:EKN as a spokesperson, though he is quite involved as UK National Coordinator and has been Playtest Coordinator. I understand the need for someone to respond, but there's only one person who can really officially provide the proper details, if any, about the true relationship between V:EKN and POD.
Not really Jeff it's fairly simple the VEKN doesn't have any legal status or £/$/€ so it can't be involved in bringing something into print directly, it can encourage someone/something else to do it for the community but it won't directly be funding or signing contracts of any sort.
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01 Jan 2013 13:49 #43500
by ReverendRevolver
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Interesring. So, the vekn gets the ball rolling and at least theoretically provides material on new cards and erratad wordings, and the POD company does the rest? Wow. That feels like it would be extremely ardorous dor the printing folks. I feel maybe things like brick laying and special rrport may not need printed, just to make it ewzier for other things to be available. Just a thought though. Still VERY optamistic about POD.
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01 Jan 2013 15:19 #43502
by Jeff Kuta
Clearly. But:
1) Who is putting up the £/$/€?
2) Who stands to benefit financially from POD?
3) Did the V:EKN take an official action to support this?
4) Is there a conflict of interest among any participants?
5) Even if there is no conflict, wouldn't transparency and disclosure be "good things"(tm)?
The V:EKN is a volunteer organization. Volunteers should know who is benefiting from their labor and to what end it is being used.
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Not really Jeff it's fairly simple the VEKN doesn't have any legal status or £/$/€ so it can't be involved in bringing something into print directly, it can encourage someone/something else to do it for the community but it won't directly be funding or signing contracts of any sort.
Clearly. But:
1) Who is putting up the £/$/€?
2) Who stands to benefit financially from POD?
3) Did the V:EKN take an official action to support this?
4) Is there a conflict of interest among any participants?
5) Even if there is no conflict, wouldn't transparency and disclosure be "good things"(tm)?
The V:EKN is a volunteer organization. Volunteers should know who is benefiting from their labor and to what end it is being used.
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01 Jan 2013 15:39 - 01 Jan 2013 19:17 #43504
by Ke.
Isn't all of this covered by the first sentence on the home page?
I'm just happy there's people working towards making that happen.
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3) Did the V:EKN take an official action to support this?
The V:EKN is a volunteer organization. Volunteers should know who is benefiting from their labor and to what end it is being used.
Isn't all of this covered by the first sentence on the home page?
Ultimately VTES back in print is good for the game — regardless of the means."Vampire: Elder Kindred Network is the Official V:TES Players' Organization dedicated to the continued health of V:TES."
I'm just happy there's people working towards making that happen.
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