Misdirections
01 Aug 2012 07:17 #34067
by Damnans
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01 Aug 2012 07:41 #34068
by mirddes
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do blood doll and vessel stack? can a minion have 3 of each?
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01 Aug 2012 07:57 #34069
by Kraus
Nothing to prevent that!
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Yep.do blood doll and vessel stack? can a minion have 3 of each?
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01 Aug 2012 12:14 - 01 Aug 2012 12:34 #34080
by jamesatzephyr
Yes, though it's generally a poor option. You aren't generally in a position to regularly pull back 4-6 pool from a single minion on a regular basis. 2-3 isn't impossible, particularly with vampires with Hesha and abilities provided by cards like Harvest Rites, but much more than that is usually unnecessary. It can also be counter-productive - vampires with a lot of good stuff on them often become popular targets for Banishment, rush combat etc.
It can happen in play, of course - you lose one or two of your vampires, so this third one is the only one you can play things on. But typically it would be a poor option to plan for.
You might get some mileage out of it with either Concert Tour or Renewed Vigor, but the slow ramp-up time of playing those cards (Dolls/Vessels) would probably mean Villein or Minion Tap made an appearance. With Parthenon or similar master-phase-action-granting tech, it would be less annoying - but would potentially descend into being a deck devoted to that trick. Voter Captivation too, though it often likes having at least some of the blood around to pay for the next Awe it wants to play, so 4-6 Dolls/Vessels would be quite a lot to have on one vampire.
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do blood doll and vessel stack? can a minion have 3 of each?
Yes, though it's generally a poor option. You aren't generally in a position to regularly pull back 4-6 pool from a single minion on a regular basis. 2-3 isn't impossible, particularly with vampires with Hesha and abilities provided by cards like Harvest Rites, but much more than that is usually unnecessary. It can also be counter-productive - vampires with a lot of good stuff on them often become popular targets for Banishment, rush combat etc.
It can happen in play, of course - you lose one or two of your vampires, so this third one is the only one you can play things on. But typically it would be a poor option to plan for.
You might get some mileage out of it with either Concert Tour or Renewed Vigor, but the slow ramp-up time of playing those cards (Dolls/Vessels) would probably mean Villein or Minion Tap made an appearance. With Parthenon or similar master-phase-action-granting tech, it would be less annoying - but would potentially descend into being a deck devoted to that trick. Voter Captivation too, though it often likes having at least some of the blood around to pay for the next Awe it wants to play, so 4-6 Dolls/Vessels would be quite a lot to have on one vampire.
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02 Aug 2012 13:47 - 02 Aug 2012 13:54 #34185
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Is "tap x minions for 2x-1 pool where x does not exceed the number of Methuselah in the game" better than "tap x minions for x pool"?
Is "tap x minions for 2x-1 pool where x does not exceed the number of Methuselah in the game" worse than "tap 1 minion for 1 pool'?
Worst-case scenario?
Best-case scenario?
Is "tap x minions for 2x-1 pool where x does not exceed the number of Methuselah in the game" worse than "tap 1 minion for 1 pool'?
Worst-case scenario?
Best-case scenario?
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02 Aug 2012 13:55 #34187
by jamesatzephyr
That's the wrong question to be asking. It doesn't matter which of those is better or worse. It matters whether it's a worthwhile card to be printed. It clearly doesn't address the problem you think it should solve - ousting weenies. Why not spend time creating a card that's more appropriate to that goal?
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Is "tap x minions for 2x-1 pool where x does not exceed the number of Methuselah in the game" better than "tap x minions for x pool"?
Is "tap x minions for 2x-1 pool where x does not exceed the number of Methuselah in the game" worse than "tap 1 minion for 1 pool'?
Worst case scenario?
That's the wrong question to be asking. It doesn't matter which of those is better or worse. It matters whether it's a worthwhile card to be printed. It clearly doesn't address the problem you think it should solve - ousting weenies. Why not spend time creating a card that's more appropriate to that goal?
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