file The Makings of Many Decks

30 Jan 2014 23:35 #58940 by Legendre
So I'm finally sitting down to do inventory of my VTES stuff, and one of the first things I did was take inventory of my existing constructed decks -- all 107 of them. While these data probably say more about how I personally construct decks and how many copies of various cards that I have available than it does about which cards are actually the best, it was nevertheless interesting seeing which cards were the most popular, which showed up the most often, in the most decks, etc.

Since I have the data, I thought I'd share it. Enjoy! (if you like things like this)

Cards with the Greatest Number of Copies Across Decks:

1. Wake with Evening's Freshness - 209 Copies
2. Blood Doll - 165 Copies
3. Taste of Vitae - 129 copies
4. Majesty - 124 copies
5. Swallowed by the Night - 119 Copies <-- This was a surprise
6. Lost in Crowds - 116 copies
7. Deflection - 115 Copies
8. Minion Tap - 109 Copies
9. Bewitching Oration - 96 Copies
10. Voter Captivation - 94 copies
11. Freak Drive - 90 Copies
12. Conditioning - 87 copies
13. On the Qui Vive - 86 copies
14. Immortal Grapple - 82 copies
15. Govern the Unaligned - 79 copies
16. Bum's Rush - 78 copies
17. Enhanced Senses - 74 copies
17. Rolling with the Punches - 74 copies
19. Torn Signpost - 71 copies
20. Bonding - 65 copies
21. Faceless Night - 60 copies
21. Kine Resources Contested - 60 copies
23. Second Tradition: Domain - 58 copies
24. Claws of the Dead - 55 copies
25. Flash - 49 copies
26. Summon Soul - 47 copies <-- This was also a surprise.
27. Blur - 46 copies
27. Telepathic Counter - 46 copies
29. Obedience - 45 copies
30. Spirit's Touch - 44 copies
30. Sudden Reversal - 44 copies
30. Theft of Vitae - 44 copies
33. Cloak the Gathering - 43 copies
34. Skin of Rock - 39 copies
35. Sense the Savage Way - 38 copies
35. Vessel - 38 copies
37. Cat's Guidance - 37 copies
37. Enchant Kindred - 37 copies
37. Villein - 37 copies
40. Carrion Crows - 36 copies
40. Unflinching Persistence - 36 copies
42. Deep Song - 35 copies
42. Raven Spy - 35 copies
42. Seduction - 35 copies
42. Sideslip - 35 copies
42. Undead Strength - 35 copies
47. Form of Mist - 34 copies
48. Aire of Elation - 33 copies
49. The Barrens - 33 copies
50. Pursuit - 32 copies
50. Social Charm - 32 copies
52. Apportation - 31 copies
53. Fortitude - 30 copies
53. Night Moves - 30 copies
53. Skin of Steel - 30 copies
53. Spying Mission - 30 copies
57. Presence - 29 copies
57. Restoration - 29 copies
57. Taste of Death - 29 Copies
60. Call of the Hungry Dead - 27 copies
60. Disguised Weapon - 27 copies
60. Eyes of Argus - 27 copies
60. Kindred Spirits - 27 copies
60. True Love's Face - 27 copies
65. Computer Hacking - 26 copies
65. Resist Earth's Grasp - 26 copies
65. Spectral Divination - 26 copies
65. Sport Bike - 26 copies
69. Changeling - 25 copies
69. Dawn Operation - 25 copies
69. Leather Jacket - 25 copies
69. Life in the City - 25 copies
69. Taunt the Cage Beast - 25 copies
74. Amaranth - 24 copies
74. Eagle's Sight - 24 copies
74. KRCG News Radio - 24 copies
74. Quicken Sight - 24 copies
74. Shadow Play - 24 copies
79. Chiropteran Marauder - 23 copies
79. Dodge - 23 copies
79. Dominate - 23 copies
79. Elder Library - 23 copies
79. Form of the Serpent - 23 copies
79. IR Goggles - 23 copies
85. Aid from Bats - 22 copies
85. Effective Management - 22 copies
85. Flesh of Marble - 22 copies
85. Rutor's Hand - 22 copies
89. Concealed Weapon - 21 copies
89. Into Thin Air - 21 copies
91. Behind You! - 20 copies
91. Consanguineous Boon - 20 copies
91. Obfuscate - 20 copies
91. Telepathic Misdirection - 20 copies
95. Elder Impersonation - 19 copies
95. Fata Morgana - 19 copies
95. Parity Shift - 19 copies
95. Soak - 19 copies
95. Staredown - 19 copies
100. Auspex - 18 copies
100. Choir - 18 copies
100. Fame - 18 copies
100. Flurry of Action - 18 copies
100. Potence - 18 copies

Cards that show up in the greatest number of decks:
(This list is probably closer a list of "staples".)

1. Blood Doll - 52 decks
2. Wake with Evening's Freshness - 45 decks
3. Minion Tap - 36 decks
4. Taste of Vitae - 34 decks
5. The Barrens - 33 decks <-- So great a card, I'm surprised it's this low.
6. Freak Drive - 28 decks
7. Deflection - 27 decks
7. Sudden Reversal - 27 decks
9. Bewitching Oration - 26 decks
9. Lost in Crowds - 26 decks
9. Swallowed by the Night - 26 decks <-- Explains the total copies, above.
12. On the Qui Vive - 25 decks
13. KRCG News Radio - 24 decks
13. Voter Captivation - 24 decks
15. Conditioning - 23 decks
15. Elder Library - 23 decks
15. Fortitude - 23 decks
18. Enhanced Senses - 22 decks
18. Govern the Unaligned - 22 decks
18. Majesty - 22 decks
18. Rolling with the Punches - 22 decks
22. Bum's Rush - 18 decks
22. Kine Resources Contested - 18 decks
24. Dominate - 17 decks
24. IR Goggles - 17 decks <-- My play environment is combat heavy.
24. Presence - 17 decks
27. Auspex - 16 decks
27. Bonding - 16 decks
27. Faceless Night - 16 decks
27. Fame - 16 decks
27. Obfuscate - 16 decks
32. Second Tradition: Domain - 15 decks
32. Skin of rock - 15 decks
32. Sport Bike - 15 decks
35. Immortal grapple - 14 decks
35. Potence - 14 decks
35. Spirit's Touch - 14 decks
38. Blur - 13 decks
38. Disputed Territory - 13 decks <-- Love it. It's a free master phase.
38. Dreams of the Sphinx - 13 decks <-- Have 40 other copies... why just 13?
38. Effective Management - 13 decks
38. Obedience - 13 decks
38. Restoration - 13 decks
38. Tension in the Ranks - 13 decks <-- Staple of combat decks
38. Torn Signpost - 13 decks
46. Enchant Kindred - 12 decks
46. Flash - 12 decks
46. Fragment of the Book of Nod - 12 decks <-- Staple of wall decks
46. Mr. Winthrop - 12 decks
46. Raven Spy - 12 decks
46. Tasha Morgan - 12 decks <-- J.S Simmons gets no love (9 decks)
52. Awe - 11 decks
52. Bowl of Convergence - 11 decks
52. Consanguineous Boon - 11 decks
52. Ivory Bow - 11 decks
52. Leather Jacket - 11 decks
52. Metro Underground - 11 decks
52. Parity Shift - 11 decks <-- Have like 50 extra... need to add some.
52. Rutor's Hand - 11 decks
52. Seduction - 11 decks
52. Skin of Steel - 11 decks
52. Unflinching Persistence - 11 decks
52. Vessel - 11 decks
64. Amaranth - 10 decks
64. Animalism - 10 decks
64. Claws of the Dead - 10 decks
64. Graverobbing - 10 decks
64. Legendary Vampire - 10 decks
64. Mylan Horseed (Goblin) - 10 decks
64. Telepathic Counter - 10 decks
64. Villein - 10 decks

Cards with the Greatest Number of Copies in Decks They Show Up In:
Obviously, the super-focused "trick"/fringe type decks have an outsized effect on this list.

1. Choir - 18 average
2. Computer Hacking - 13 average
3. Orun - 12 average
4. Nocturn - 11 average
5. Aye - 10 average
5. Vermin Channel - 10 average
5. Creation Rites - 10 average
5. Gremlins - 10 average
5. Increased Strength - 10 average
5. Night Moves - 10 average
11. Cryptic Mission - 9 average
11. Kindred Spirits - 9 average
11. Media Influence - 9 average
11. Raptor - 9 average
11. Speak with Spirits - 9 average
16. Thrown Sewer Lid - 8.5 average
17. Movement of the Slow Body - 8 average
17. Soul Burn - 8 average
17. Soul Decoration - 8 average
17. Spirit Marionette - 8 average
21. Aabt Kindred - 7 average
21. Aching Beauty - 7 average
21. Aura Absorption - 7 average
21. Day Operation - 7 average
21. Falcon's Eye - 7 average
21. Fiendish Tongue - 7 average
21. Hive Mind - 7 average
21. Mask of a Thousand Faces - 7 average
21. Mayaparisatya - 7 average
21. Quicksilver Contemplation - 7 average
21. Sense Death - 7 average
21. Shambling Hordes - 7 average
33. Body Arsenal - 6.5 average
34. Fata Morgana - 6.33 average
35. Changeling - 6.25 average
36. Apportation - 6.2 average
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31 Jan 2014 02:30 #58941 by ReverendRevolver
Awesome stats!

Id be afraid to do this with my roughly 14 decks together at any time. People would see loads of freak drives and 44s.

I can tell a tad about expected meta and yoir preferences atcleast from this.

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31 Jan 2014 14:12 - 31 Jan 2014 14:13 #58948 by brandonsantacruz
Am I blind, or did Deflection not make the list of many copies of the same card? EIther way that says something.

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31 Jan 2014 14:35 #58952 by kombainas
From my perspective, it would be weird if you would *average* more than 6 deflections in the decks featuring them.

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31 Jan 2014 15:33 #58953 by ReverendRevolver

From my perspective, it would be weird if you would *average* more than 6 deflections in the decks featuring them.


I agree, since 4-6 is normal depending on deck size, 8 is super high, then you run 2 in things like g2 Samedi.

Im surprised Govern isnt higher.

My go-to formula for decks that have a good action like that and can multiact is 8x freak drive, 8x (govern, deep song, etc)

Then theres the forced march capable stuff, and things like cock robin where i run 2 freak drives, due to other mtiact possibilities and such.

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31 Jan 2014 19:52 #58960 by ThatGuyThere
Thank you for this!

As a new-ish player, this serves as a good list of which cards to get ahold of, or to fill spaces in decks with. I'm going to be going over your list vs my collection for a while, now...!

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