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27 Jul 2013 05:39 - 09 Aug 2013 04:27 #52311 by gotcha
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The general idea is to be pretty invisible, survive, weaking everybody (by playing vampiric disease crosstable + my enemy's enemy) and have 'some tablecontrol' with hide the heart. Played it once and it worked better then anticipated (for a fundeck) but i felt i needed more of everything: more wakes, more intercept, more bleed, more poolgain, more blissful agony, more society, ....

So any ideas for improvement are welcome
(i thought about smiling jack, but that really puts you in the centre of attention which you probably can't handle, thought about adding matthias or converts to crypt, adding inceptor/vitae block/ final loosening ... but i don't seem to have any slots left ....; signet of king saul/crocodiles tongue, powerbase: baranquilla, wash/sudden, life in the city, carlton!, ...)

Crypt (12 cards; Capacity min=2 max=7 avg=4.5)
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4x Adonai 7 for AUS VAL !Salubri:2
2x Doris McMillon 2 val !Salubri:2
1x Isabel de Leon 3 AUS Toreador:2
1x Kervos, The Lieutenant 3 aus val !Salubri:2
1x Thomas Steed, The Angry 4 ani aus val !Salubri:2
3x Wolf Valentine 4 for VAL !Salubri:2
(-1 Wolf + Dela Eden)

Library (88 cards)
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Master (13)
3x Blood Doll (-1 -> powerbase savannah)
1x Code of Samiel
1x Giant's Blood
1x Hungry Coyote, The (->powerbase montreal)
1x Rack, The
1x Society of Leopold
1x Sudden Reversal
3x Vampiric Disease
1x Wash
(+1 secure haven)

Event (1)
(+1 Dr. Marisa Fletcher, CDC)
1x Hunger Moon

Action (4)
2x Abbot
1x Aranthebes, The Immortal
1x Sanguine Instruction (-1)

Equipment (9)
2x .44 Magnum
1x Bowl of Convergence
1x Gran Madre di Dio, Italy
1x Ivory Bow
1x Kevlar Vest (-> leather jacket)
1x Leather Jacket
2x Sniper Rifle

Ally (3)
(+1 carlton van wyck)
1x Neighborhood Watch Commander (Hunter)
1x Ossian
1x Young Bloods

Retainer (1)
1x Mr. Winthrop

Action Modifier (6)
4x Change of Target (-2)
(+1 crocodile's tongue)
2x Gift of Bellona

Reaction (34)
2x Delaying Tactics
6x Eyes of Argus
12x Hide the Heart
3x My Enemy's Enemy
5x On the Qui Vive
6x Telepathic Misdirection

Combat (9)
7x Blissful Agony
2x Death Seeker

Combo (8)
8x Burning Touch (-2)
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27 Jul 2013 12:30 #52356 by Adonai
Replied by Adonai on topic Re: blissful agony
Invest in Dela Eden and Path of Retribution .

Blissful Agony is great for 1 blood.
Blissful Agony for free is amazing!

Consider a few copies of Frenzy .

See also:
www.thelasombra.com/decks/clandecks.htm#SalubriAntitribu
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27 Jul 2013 12:38 #52357 by Ohlmann
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Why frenzy ? I don't see the synergy, but it may be me being farsighted.

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27 Jul 2013 13:05 - 27 Jul 2013 13:06 #52358 by Reyda
Replied by Reyda on topic Re: blissful agony

Why frenzy ? I don't see the synergy, but it may be me being farsighted.


Adonai intercepts Vamp 1 from predator.
plays blissful agony sup during combat.
Sends Vamp 1 to fight Vamp 2 from prey.
Plays frenzy, so they go to a second round of combat.
Double the loss of blood from them, or make them spend S:ce, which is always good.

Also : prevents the use of Talbot / Ivory bow / and other stuff in a pinch. At the very least, provides a press.

The Blissful Ago / Frenzy combo is played since Bloodlines came out. Time to catch up :)

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27 Jul 2013 13:33 #52359 by Ohlmann
Replied by Ohlmann on topic Re: blissful agony
Well, I have started way after Bloodline. And I did want to catch up, since I asked a question :)
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27 Jul 2013 19:26 #52364 by gotcha
Replied by gotcha on topic Re: blissful agony
Tx. Dela is good: can bounce, +strength, VAL, ... but i thought it might get too expensive? I still want adonai as n°1 for the +1 bleed and the potential rush. But it is worth the try.
Path ... yez but since i have only 7 VAL cards that cost I thought that it might be not worth drawing it halfway the game... maybe better another blood gain card like perfectionist or so?
Frenzy ... like it a lot ... probably one of the only good uses for a crappy card? Can I say that, lol?! Didn't come up with that (and I didn't play a couple of years after sabbat - ) so still catching up (it's like what they say about sleep you didn't get)

One remark about my blissful agony strategy: play vampiric disease on grandprrey, then make your prey and grandprey fight, or/and grandpredator and predator ... they have no reason to be nice to eachother. This is of course in the abscence of war ghouls ... And i know the are crosstable buddies but (in a perfect world) your grandprey gets weaker and starts more defensive play -> more pressure on prey and less on your grandpredator who then can put more presuure on your predator! And you are in the perfect spot, lol! How about that?

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