file Can Dual Form work?

21 Jul 2015 05:27 - 21 Jul 2015 05:28 #72138 by Malachy
Can Dual Form work? was created by Malachy
Greets!

Without modifying the backbone of the deck (meaning I only play gangrel, !gangrel and ahrimane, so please dont tell me to recreate the whole crypt to !toreador or something :D), how do you think I can improve ousting power? I considered using Delaying Tactics/Direct Intervention against cheeky stuff like Banishment, but eventually I chose acting instead of reacting. Any idea occurring is welcomed, especially constructive critics.

Deck Name: Mea Culpa
Author: Máté Vaka
Description:
A deck relying on Dual Form? Yes! As you can imagine playing this deck requires a large amount of knowledge of the game, cards and decks otherwise it can turn into a burning parade. I managed to sit in a Finals with this and get a Barrenness deck as my predator... gg.

Crypt (12 cards; Capacity min=2 max=9 avg=6.25)
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3x Aksinya Daclau 9 cel tha ANI FOR PRE PRO !Gangrel:4
1x Bill Butler 3 pot pro !Gangrel:4
1x Denette Stensen 2 obf !Gangrel:4
1x Jesús Alcalá 2 cel !Gangrel:3
1x Leo Washington 2 cel pro !Gangrel:4
1x Lula Burch 3 for pro !Gangrel:4
4x Una 9 dem ANI FOR PRE PRO !Gangrel:3

Library (90 cards)
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Master (18)
1x Blood Doll
1x Campground Hunting Ground
1x City Gangrel Connections
1x Coven, The
3x Dreams of the Sphinx
1x Festivo dello Estinto
1x Giant's Blood
1x Heidelberg Castle, Germany
1x Information Highway
1x Twisted Forest
4x Vessel
2x Villein

Action (10)
1x Abactor
5x Dual Form
2x Heart of the City
2x Loki's Gift

Political Action (18)
5x Cardinal Benediction
3x Consanguineous Boon
1x Conservative Agitation
7x Kine Resources Contested
1x Neonate Breach
1x Political Stranglehold

Action Modifier (30)
5x Beast Meld
7x Bewitching Oration
3x Earth Control
8x Freak Drive
7x Voter Captivation

Combat (12)
4x Earth Meld
8x Form of Mist

Combo (2)
2x Rapid Change

NC of Hungary

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Last edit: 21 Jul 2015 05:28 by Malachy.

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21 Jul 2015 08:16 #72140 by mirddes
Replied by mirddes on topic Can Dual Form work?
how does it rely on it? i only see five.

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21 Jul 2015 09:25 #72141 by Borrelstein
Replied by Borrelstein on topic Can Dual Form work?
Nice to see that you can get it to work!

To go for a vote strategy with !gangrel seems a bit cumbersome, though, Maybe combine with Adana de Sforza instead of Una for more permanent votes? Fakir al Sidi to stop banishments easier?

Also, have you considered using House of Sorrow to decks like this?
It combines great with your locations, Dreams and especially with The Coven to use it for 4 blood and denying your predator the use.

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21 Jul 2015 11:04 #72142 by Brum
Replied by Brum on topic Can Dual Form work?

Borrelstein wrote: Also, have you considered using House of Sorrow to decks like this?
It combines great with your locations, Dreams and especially with The Coven to use it for 4 blood and denying your predator the use.


I wish it did, but it doesn't deny your Predator from using The Coven.

House of Sorrow wrote: If you do so, neither that card nor this location untap as normal on your next untap phase.


In fact, I think the card remembers the next time it is under your control.
Floppy?

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21 Jul 2015 11:17 - 21 Jul 2015 19:46 #72143 by Pascal Bertrand
Replied by Pascal Bertrand on topic Can Dual Form work?
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However, in a two-player game, untapping The Coven with House of Sorrows will cause it not to untap during your next untap phase. So, if your predator taps it, you don't get to untap it. You're basically borrowing the usage of The Coven from your next turn if you untap it with House of Sorrows in a 2-player game.
Last edit: 21 Jul 2015 19:46 by Pascal Bertrand.
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21 Jul 2015 15:00 #72145 by Kushiel
Replied by Kushiel on topic Can Dual Form work?

mirddes wrote: how does it rely on it? i only see five.


It appears to rely on Dual Form in the sense that the basic plan for the deck is to get out Una and/or Aksinya, have them DF to create another large PRE/PRO sabbat vampire, and have the DFs become cardinals via Cardinal Benediction to achieve vote lock.

I do agree that with only five copies of each of those key cards, a 90-card library is much too large.

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