file Creeping Primogen

29 Oct 2020 01:23 - 08 Nov 2020 10:12 #101011 by Surprise
Creeping Primogen was created by Surprise
Hi dear cainites ,

Im very fond of the new angle that is offered the clan Nosferatu ,

i did throw a bunch of cards together but would like to have advices and review about this deck.

The goal of the deck is to wall up while laying creeping sabotages .

Here the list :
Crypt :

1x Zelios pro ANI OBF POT can lock to pay a location with his blood rather than pool , primogn +1strength 8cap

1x Ruxandra ani aus OBF ventrue get -1int against ruxandra .You can use a dicard action and lock her to discard any number of cards 5 cap

1x Slag ani ani obf pot 4 cap
2x Lenny Burkhead obf pre pot ANI primogen +1 bleed 6 cap
3x The Dowager aus pot ANI OBF primogen +1int vs D action 6 cap
3x Larrissa pot ANI OBF primogen can discard a ani card for +1 bleed 6 cap
1x Baixinho ani obf 3 cap

Master (20 cards)
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1x Erciyes Fragments, The
1x Fragment of the Book of Nod
1x Giant's Blood
1x Labyrinth, The
1x Powerbase: Montreal
1x Rack, The
1x Slum Hunting Ground
1x Smiling Jack, The Anarch
6x Villein
1x Wall Street Night, Financial Newspaper
2x Warsaw Station
2x Wash
1x Wider View

Action (8 cards)
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2x Army of Rats
6x Creeping Sabotage

Action Modifier/Combat (10 cards)
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3x Swallowed by the Night
5x Forgotten Labyrinth
2x Elder impersonation

Ally (1 cards)
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1x Carlton Van Wyk

Retainer (5 cards)
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5x Raven Spy

Equipment (7 cards)
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2x .44 Magnum
1x Heart of Nizchetus
1x Ivory Bow
1x Sengir Dagger
2x Sniper Rifle

Reaction (39 cards)
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6x Forced Awakening
4x Guard Dogs
4x Instinctive Reaction
6x On the Qui Vive
3x Read the Winds
7x Cats' Guidance
5x The Warrens
4x Protected District
Last edit: 08 Nov 2020 10:12 by Surprise.

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05 Nov 2020 08:20 #101068 by Bloodartist
Replied by Bloodartist on topic Creeping Primogen
It is very difficult to determine whether a deck is "good" without testing it, by only looking at the list. You should probably play with it to see whether it functions as you expect.

I however notice some elements which might cause issues:

- The number of reactions I think is too high.. which will probably cause card flow issues. Unlike actions and modifiers, reactions require opponent to do something that you react to, and you don't want to be blocking everything. The trick to playing a wall is knowing which actions to block. That is a topic of its own. I think the number of reactions should be in the neighborhood of 30 in a 90 card deck, but YMMV.

- I'm not sure if you have enough sabotages to reliably have them as an ousting condition.

- The main issue that I see, is that there is practically no stealth, yet there are several key actions that you must perform (sabotages, army of rats, weapons). If opponent would simply block your key actions, your deck would be largely neutered.

Since none of your key actions are bleeds, I recommend you put 5 or so forgotten labyrinths to the deck (+3 stealth for a non-bleed action) which would help ensure that you get the actions that you need through.

I recommend you play with the deck first though, to get a good feeling of it. Then tell us the results.

A heretic is a man who sees with his own eyes.
—Gotthold Ephraim Lessing



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05 Nov 2020 11:41 #101069 by elotar
Replied by elotar on topic Creeping Primogen
It seems that the way to go with CS is to make half :nosf: half others :ANI: weenie. So Nosferatu are playing sabotages, others are equipping with ravens or rushing backwards.

:splat: NC Russia
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05 Nov 2020 22:45 #101071 by Surprise
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Would you have any slot for heavy reactions with the ANI Combat package ?

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08 Nov 2020 08:05 #101081 by Kushiel
Replied by Kushiel on topic Creeping Primogen
Not knowing the discipline spreads or capacities of the vampires in the crypt makes it difficult to provide useful feedback on the deck.

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08 Nov 2020 10:13 #101082 by Surprise
Replied by Surprise on topic Creeping Primogen
That s so true , ive edited the list to show the capacities of the crypt .

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