Card Idea: New Equipments

alek wrote:

I wonder if you remember vtes (and WoD) is a game of modern horror and not a middle-age fantasy game. Gun's are fine, but magical swords?? come on, how many guys wondering streets with swords these days? And there is a reason for it IMO melee weapon combat should be just a small flavor and should not be used to often in modern games. It's just doesn't stick to main theme. So no new cards for it, please

If I may oppose: One year old incident in Prague

Ohlmann wrote:

jamesatzephyr wrote:

The Sword of Nuln. The Crimson Sentinel. Blade of Enoch. Crusader Sword.

Joumlon's AXE.

Are they a good idea ?

Some of them are a bit weak, for my tastes. Beyond that, I couldn't even slightly care if you get upset that a game involving magical creatures in a magical universe with magical powers with magical allies and magical retainers is irreparably stained by its association with a magic sword.


If you want a game that fits your bizarre "It has to be just like the real world except when I say so" rules, you picked the wrong one. Elephants run round chasing a clone of myself while I'm firing rocket-propelled grenades from my chauffeur-driven sport bike.

jamesatzephyr wrote:

If you want a game that fits your bizarre "It has to be just like the real world except when I say so" rules.

I don't want that, and I never, ever talk of a rule of this type. I just want self-consistency for VtES.

Simply put, would you like a Death Star Attack event ? An Equestria Intervention as a master ? A Hida Kisada Ally ? Cylon counter to take control of your vampire ? Maybe, but most people would not want that, because it is a silly match-up of different universes.

Thoses magical artifact are exactly the same problem. They don't belong to Vampire, so adding them is silly and stupid. They may have been written on some sourcebook, but that don'y mean they are coherent in the setting.

Topic-starter proposed equipment and linked those with WoD (rulebooks or CGs where it was mentioned). So all those "magic swords" could exist in old-old WoD. The only question left was "why all these are so common when they are unique and rare?" - I answered: 'cause Methuselahs gathered/tracked them though their entire life, and at last, pushed their minions to get "magic swords" and use in jyhad-war.

jAvel wrote:

So all those "magic swords" could exist in old-old WoD.

But then again, not everything that appear on the sourcebook is really legit, a lot have been either retconned, dutifully ignored afterward, and sometime the authors have said that some parts were not to be really taken seriously.

Excalibur have been mentionned, should it be added ? A giant orbital laser station have been used in a sourcebook, should it be an equipment ? Tzimisce is supposed to destroy New york by eating it, should we add a 11-cap with 200 strength ?

Ohlmann wrote:

jamesatzephyr wrote:

If you want a game that fits your bizarre "It has to be just like the real world except when I say so" rules.

I don't want that, and I never, ever talk of a rule of this type. I just want self-consistency for VtES.

Adding a new magical item does not, in any way, break consistency for V:TES. It is already packed with large numbers of magical items.