[Submission] Ruination (helps combat decks to oust their prey)
08 Jan 2015 08:48 #68539
by Ankha
Ruination
Cardtype: Master
Requires a ready vampire with capacity 6 or more.
Put this card in play. Your prey burns 3 pool if he or she does not control a ready vampire during his or her discard phase. Any vampire controlled by your prey can burn this card as a
action. A Methuselah can have only one Ruination.
Flavor text:
Gentlemen-rankers out on the spree
Damned from here to Eternity,
God ha' mercy on such as we,
Baa! Yah! Bah!
Rudyard Kipling, The Barrack-Room Ballads and Other Verses
Art notes:
Some ancient, overgrown haven in ruins.
World of Darkness reference:
A Methuselah is "out of the game" if he doesn't have minions that can act for him (allies are excluded here).
How does this card address a compelling game need?:
This card only accelerates the ousting of a prey that don't have any ready vampire left. It also penalizes allies-only decks (after all, V:TES is about vampires).
It helps combat deck that manage to get rid of the vampires of her prey but must back-rush in order to survive and that can't go forward to achieve the VP they would earn otherwise.
The 6-cap vampire requirement is wanted because it ensures the prey has 11 transfers before her next discard phase. It also makes it not usable by a weenie-DBR for instance, or by a Antonio Derlette deck (unless he plays a 6-cap or some master: discipline).
Cardtype: Master
Requires a ready vampire with capacity 6 or more.
Put this card in play. Your prey burns 3 pool if he or she does not control a ready vampire during his or her discard phase. Any vampire controlled by your prey can burn this card as a
action. A Methuselah can have only one Ruination.Flavor text:
Gentlemen-rankers out on the spree
Damned from here to Eternity,
God ha' mercy on such as we,
Baa! Yah! Bah!
Rudyard Kipling, The Barrack-Room Ballads and Other Verses
Art notes:
Some ancient, overgrown haven in ruins.
World of Darkness reference:
A Methuselah is "out of the game" if he doesn't have minions that can act for him (allies are excluded here).
How does this card address a compelling game need?:
This card only accelerates the ousting of a prey that don't have any ready vampire left. It also penalizes allies-only decks (after all, V:TES is about vampires).
It helps combat deck that manage to get rid of the vampires of her prey but must back-rush in order to survive and that can't go forward to achieve the VP they would earn otherwise.
The 6-cap vampire requirement is wanted because it ensures the prey has 11 transfers before her next discard phase. It also makes it not usable by a weenie-DBR for instance, or by a Antonio Derlette deck (unless he plays a 6-cap or some master: discipline).
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08 Jan 2015 09:58 #68540
by Pendargon
Replied by Pendargon on topic Re: [Submission] Ruination (helps combat decks to oust their prey)
Actually, a nice idea.
I would make it an Action : put this card in play, unique.
And have it burn 2 pool instead of 3.
I would make it an Action : put this card in play, unique.
And have it burn 2 pool instead of 3.
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08 Jan 2015 12:48 - 08 Jan 2015 12:59 #68543
by Ankha
Replied by Ankha on topic Re: [Submission] Ruination (helps combat decks to oust their prey)
It works both ways. Given the resiliency to combat of Imbueds* (especially when Jessie is out), most rush decks are not able to kill an imbued deck. In that case, the only pressure a combat deck could make would be the pool damage of this card.
Plus, backousting an unmanageable predator has always been part of the game (see also combat deck vs stealth bleed predator)
* it requires "strike: burn the opposing ally" cards that are very rare and restricted to certain disciplines (Autonomic Mastery°, Basilisk's Touch & Cobra Fangs (requires unprevented damage) Entombment, Invoke Poison Glands, Liquefy the Mortal Coil, Mercy for Seth, Still the Mortal Flesh°) or being able to incapacitate the Imbued THEN to get through the other Imbueds to burn it.
°: can be cancelled with React with Conviction
Plus, backousting an unmanageable predator has always been part of the game (see also combat deck vs stealth bleed predator)
* it requires "strike: burn the opposing ally" cards that are very rare and restricted to certain disciplines (Autonomic Mastery°, Basilisk's Touch & Cobra Fangs (requires unprevented damage) Entombment, Invoke Poison Glands, Liquefy the Mortal Coil, Mercy for Seth, Still the Mortal Flesh°) or being able to incapacitate the Imbued THEN to get through the other Imbueds to burn it.
°: can be cancelled with React with Conviction
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08 Jan 2015 13:28 #68544
by kombainas
Sabbat. If this vampire's bleed is successful, he laughs manicly and untaps.
Replied by kombainas on topic Re: [Submission] Ruination (helps combat decks to oust their prey)
This absolutely has to be Unique. It would break the game if you had 2+ of them in play. Bam you're dead, insta-oust, next.
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08 Jan 2015 13:39 #68545
by self biased
Replied by self biased on topic Re: [Submission] Ruination (helps combat decks to oust their prey)
Ruination
Cardtype: Master
Requires a ready vampire with capacity 6 or more.
Put this card in play. Your prey burns 3 pool if he or she does not control a ready vampire during his or her discard phase. Any vampire controlled by your prey can burn this card as a
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