file submission: warped perceptions

28 May 2015 04:05 #71363 by 2wayspeaker

direwolf wrote: :CHI: Reduce the acting minions stealth to -1.

Just trying to keep it simple here :)


But chimerstry already has that card, draba. I much like the new superior text that anyone can block.
I'm not shure if people will take the offer though. You offer the chance but not many decks benefit directly from blocking cross table.
Maybe make it: each methuselah must attempt to block once :evil: and couple it with draba and mistress Fanchon.

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28 May 2015 05:45 #71364 by direwolf

2wayspeaker wrote:

direwolf wrote: :CHI: Reduce the acting minions stealth to -1.

Just trying to keep it simple here :)


But chimerstry already has that card, draba. I much like the new superior text that anyone can block.
I'm not shure if people will take the offer though. You offer the chance but not many decks benefit directly from blocking cross table.
Maybe make it: each methuselah must attempt to block once :evil: and couple it with draba and mistress Fanchon.


Draba reduces the stealth to 0. This is waaaaay different /sarcasm.

:tore: :pre: :tem: :aus: Independent Futurist. Contrarian (titled, X votes where X is the number of votes as the acting minion.) Target Vitals is always the better combat card.

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28 May 2015 17:36 #71375 by jamesatzephyr

2wayspeaker wrote: I'm not shure if people will take the offer though. You offer the chance but not many decks benefit directly from blocking cross table.
Maybe make it: each methuselah must attempt to block once :evil: and couple it with draba and mistress Fanchon.


It's fun and in-theme, but not really that useful.

The acting minion still has the incentive to make their action successful, so may well still throw down stealth or whatever. And the new blocker potentially has little incentive to throw down extra resources to block someone else's action.

Let's say this is your predator bleeding you, and you make your grand-predator try to block them. The combat occurs, but your grand-predator isn't a very combative deck - he's playing Ventrue Law Firm, and mostly only has S:CE and prevent. Not very exciting for your predator. Or you instead choose to have your grand-prey block him, who has guns - but what incentive does your grand-prey have to beat up his grand-prey right now?

To eliminate one of those problems, perhaps:
[CHI][DEM] Play when this vampire successfully blocks an acting ready minion. Choose another ready minion who is not controlled by the acting Methuselah. The chosen minion is now the successful blocker instead; the acting minion enters combat with the chosen minion (as normal for a successful block), and this combat is the resulting combat.

Still not great, but you can at least make sure the block is successful.

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31 May 2015 20:08 #71443 by snegiem
Name: warped perceptions drawing undue attention
Cardtype: reaction 
Cost: nothing
chi dem:  the acting minion gets -1 stealth for the remainder of the turn
CHI DEM as above and any minion can attempt to block this minion ignoring the normal prey, predator or target restrictions for blocking actions. Blocking attempts declaration by Methuselah are made clockwise beginning by the acting minion controller's prey instead of the normal order.

Let me try to explain once more why this way could help a wall deck for a mixed ravnos/malkav deck:

This card would be useful for exemples
At inferior:
- your prey is making a basic action at +1 stealth (hunting, equiping, political action, recruiting...), it gives to both you and his prey help to block the action and so to get maybe a fight between two minion you dont control.
- same for your predator and his predator
It s true it will probably not stop a "night move" or "forgotten labyrinth" but it can make the difference for an ally you want to save (for the moment) at the table.
Look at maris streck the malkavian justicar for instance: most of the time the player will bargain about the use of her ability and lot of times i saw her owner just using her ability to help his grand prey to block actions.

- at superior, it allows to almost any minion to block the action as if they had used an eagle sight.
So it allows both to make crosstable blocks or/and to allow them.
+ it keeps the advantage of the inferior level. So it can allow you to block your grand predator which is bleeding too fast your predator and so to save you time or to block a parity shift crosstable or to just add paranoia at the table to give an opportunity to.another deck wall to block an action...
the text is long... it s true... but it has to clear up many details about change of the regular prey/predator priority at blocking.
to go counterclockwise this way is maybe adding difficulty but getting decision clockwise would have make them too simple...

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31 May 2015 20:17 #71444 by snegiem
Another advantage of this card: when you give intercept to a minion, if he does not block with success, the intercept is lost... but if you give -1 stealth to an action, any attempt to block will take advabtage of this bonus...

A last word about blocks cross table.
For ravnos/malkav deck, to block cross table :
- normally you would need an eagle sight with intercept lost in case the block is not succedsful
- with the drawing undue attention: you give all your minions both eagle sight and a bonus to block the action...

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