file Keeping Up

26 Oct 2017 08:34 - 26 Oct 2017 12:33 #84019 by Bloodartist
Replied by Bloodartist on topic Keeping Up

"each unlock" and "each time a minion unlocks" means the same thing to me. Two commenters after you read the idea and provided a constructive revision.


We have this thing called UNLOCK STEP. "Each unlock" is very ambiguous whether it refers to the step or when the minion (or in this case, the card keeping up) actually unlocks. Ankhas way of writing is much clearer.

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26 Oct 2017 11:38 - 26 Oct 2017 11:39 #84021 by Ankha
Replied by Ankha on topic Keeping Up

"Each unlock" is not correct, and that's why it was confusing me. "Each time a minion unlocks" is a proper way of expressing what you meant, unless I got it wrong once again.


"each unlock" and "each time a minion unlocks" means the same thing to me.

I understood that. "Unlock" doesn't exist as a noun in the rulebook. It is either a verb, or the name of a phase. That's why it's not correct rule-wise.

Two commenters after you read the idea and provided a constructive revision.

I'm glad they understood what you meant. I didn't.

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28 Oct 2017 03:17 #84037 by Blooded Sand
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"each unlock"

Each unlock phase

and "each time a minion unlocks."

Every time a minion unlocks. 2nd Tradition, freak drive, etc.

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01 Nov 2017 05:15 - 01 Nov 2017 05:15 #84069 by direwolf
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Two commenters after you read the idea and provided a constructive revision.

I'm glad they understood what you meant. I didn't.


I contribute on the card ideas forums pretty frequently and I get a lot of that. By brain don't work right. I must be a Malkavian.

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01 Nov 2017 15:11 #84086 by jblacey
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Okay, I am really confused. What problem is this card solving? Do we think that Fortitude needs the ability for multiple unlocks without blood cost?

Maybe I might be missing something... but isn't this card way better version of Rutor's Hand?

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01 Nov 2017 16:40 #84089 by Kraus
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Okay, I am really confused. What problem is this card solving? Do we think that Fortitude needs the ability for multiple unlocks without blood cost?

Maybe I might be missing something... but isn't this card way better version of Rutor's Hand?

Not really. Basically you'll get this trigger only occasionally. Notice the 'not during unlock phase' clause, however that'll eventually be realized into the card text? That means only when your predator (again more restrictions) freaks, uses animalism untap or sect based reactions (2nd Trad, Under Siege...), stuff like that. It's frequent but not guaranteed.

Also no extra stealth on the action.

Sure, doesn't cost blood, but hardly just a better Rutor's. I'd say.

The latest wording works the best, for sure.

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