Redesigned V:TES cards in the house of Bad Ideas.

Yeah, but in that layout, the discipline icons were horridly small and could be painful to recognise at a distance.

Its feeling more and more like the styles used in things like UFS and that does take away from the 'urban gothic' that has been part of VTES from its VtM roots. Not sure how to update it without losing some of the 'urban gothic' but I think it is lost from the Saatet. On top of not liking the drops.

I really like the vertical style used for presenting the disciplines introducesd in Camarilal Edition.

So far anything tried out with this experiment hasn't so far resulted in something I'd think was superior, or even equal, to that.

Not saying that you shouldn't try to improve on it, but it is something that I feel has least need to be changed.

IMO full-bleed designs with vertical bar (with disciplines on it) on the left side looked much better.
I feel that Such design would be better for library cards as well. Bar is a good place for placing different icons, without it it looks messy. Could we try Saatet-ta with such design?

They are very similar to WoW cards.

I've a busy weekend ahead of me, but i wanted to let everyone know i've got some ideas from everyone's feedback and can hopefully make something happen on sunday.

I put the green bar back in, but shortened it significantly. more to come later....