file Formatting cards: Why are there none requiring "X OR Y" discipline?

12 Aug 2018 18:37 #89919 by LivesByProxy
For example:

I've Had Worse
Combat :combat:
:for: or :pot:: Prevent 1 non-aggravated damage this round.
:FOR:: Prevent 2 non-aggravated damage this round. Draw a card (and discard down.)
:FOR::POT:: As above, and gain 1 blood from the blood bank when this combat is over.

Why has the "X OR Y" discipline requirement format not used? Seems like it could be appropriate for some cards, add flexibility, possible interesting designs, etc, etc.

(Trivia: I've Had Worse is a meme / inside joke from FFG's LCGs. They always prevent or cancel damage, or something similar.)

Discuss.

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12 Aug 2018 18:45 #89920 by brandonsantacruz
False premise.

Look at anarch cards and cards with "outferior" disciplines. For example:

Dust Up
Combat
Requires an anarch.
[ani] Strike: hand strike at +1 damage. This strike cannot be dodged.
[cel] Strike: dodge, with 1 additional strike.
[pot] Strike: hand strike at +2 damage.

Absorb the Mind
Combat
[dom] Strike: dodge.
[myt] Strike: ranged. Steal 1 blood.
[MYT] Strike: ranged. Steal 1 blood and steal 1 master: Discipline card from the opposing vampire (put it on this striking vampire).

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12 Aug 2018 18:46 - 12 Aug 2018 18:50 #89921 by Damnans
A few cards using that format already exist:

Name: Keystone Kine
[TR:C]
Cardtype: Action
Discipline: Celerity/Necromancy/Obfuscate
Requires an anarch.
[cel] and/or [nec] and/or [obf] (D) Bleed. If using [cel], he or she gains 1 blood. If using [nec], the bleed is at +1 bleed. If using [obf] and this action is successful, you may burn an ally controlled by your prey whose cost is not greater than the bleed amount.
Artist: Peter Bergting

Name: Guardian Vigil
[AU:C]
Cardtype: Reaction
Discipline: Auspex/Celerity/Fortitude
Requires an anarch. More than one discipline can be used when playing this card. This anarch attempts to block.
[aus] +1 intercept, even if intercept is not yet needed.
[cel] This anarch gets 1 optional maneuver in the resulting combat if he or she blocks.
[for] This anarch does not lock for the block.
Artist: Carmen Cornet


Name: Illegalism
[AU:C]
Cardtype: Action
Discipline: Celerity/Chimerstry/Presence
Requires an anarch. More than one discipline can be used when playing this card.
(D) Bleed.
[cel] Unlock this anarch if the bleed is successful.
[chi] This action is at +1 stealth.
[ pre] The bleed is at +1 bleed.
Artist: Carmen Cornet


Name: Memory Rift
[AU:C]
Cardtype: Action Modifier
Discipline: Dementation/Obfuscate/Presence
Requires an anarch. Only usable as the action is announced. More than one discipline can be used when playing this card.
[dem] Choose a titled vampire or a younger vampire. That vampire cannot block this action.
[obf] +1 stealth, even if stealth is not yet needed.
[ pre] If this action is blocked, this anarch can strike: combat ends during the first round of the resulting combat.
Artist: Jared Smith


Name: Ni Dieu ni Maître
[AU:C]
Cardtype: Action Modifier
Discipline: Animalism/Fortitude/Vicissitude
Requires an anarch. Only usable as the action is announced. More than one discipline can be used when playing this card.
[ani] If this action is blocked, the opposing minion cannot use maneuvers in the resulting combat.
[for] Vampires must burn 1 blood to attempt to block this action.
[vic] If this action is blocked, this anarch gets +1 strength in the resulting combat.
Artist: Rubén Bravo


Name: Make the Misere
[AU:C]
Cardtype: Action
Discipline: Celerity/Obfuscate/Potence
Requires an anarch. More than one discipline can be used when playing this card.
(D) Enter combat with a locked minion.
[cel] This anarch gets 1 optional maneuver during this combat.
[obf] This action is at +1 stealth.
[pot] This anarch gets +1 strength during this combat.
Artist: Grzegorz Bobrowski

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12 Aug 2018 19:14 - 12 Aug 2018 19:15 #89923 by LivesByProxy
I phrased the question wrong - I'm not sure how to phrase it, and my characters in the subject title are limited. I don't think those anarch cards follow the formatting I'm asking about. They're similar, but different.

Those anarch cards operate like this:
More than one discipline can be used to play this card.
[X]: Effect 1
[Y]: Effect 2
[Z]: Effect 3


(You can get the different effects all in one action, provided you have the required discipline.)

What I'm asking about is:
[X] or [Y]: Effect 1 <---- this formatting
[Y]: Effect 2
[Z]: Effect 3


A card with multiple effects, but you still must choose only one effect, but one of those effects (the first) has a flexible requirement: you need X OR Y discipline.

These are different, no?

:gang: :CEL: :FOR: :PRO: :cap6: Gangrel. Noddist. Camarilla. Once each turn, LivesByProxy may burn 1 blood to lose Protean :PRO: until the end of the turn and gain your choice of Auspex :AUS:, Obfuscate :OBF:, or Potence :POT: for the current action.
Last edit: 12 Aug 2018 19:15 by LivesByProxy. Reason: clarity

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12 Aug 2018 19:35 #89924 by Kraus
Please make sure you post on the right sub-section. Many topics seem to end up in News and Announcements, where they do not belong.

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13 Aug 2018 00:02 #89935 by TwoRazorReign

LivesByProxy wrote: I phrased the question wrong...


No, you really didn't. The only card I can think of that does what you are saying is:

Fae Contortion
[myt] [REFLEX] Cancel a grapple card played on this vampire as it is played (no cost is paid).
[obt] [COMBAT] Maneuver.
[myt] [COMBAT] Maneuver.

[MYT] [ACTION MODIFIER] +1 stealth.

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