question-circle [Fun Design Challenge] 5th Sabbat Starter?

10 Jan 2019 22:59 #92761 by LivesByProxy
With the 4 Sabbat Starters revealed, I am a bit disappointed that there isn't a 5th for this (ideally) 5-player game. So brainstorm what a 5th Sabbat Starter would look like. What clan? What strategy? What key Library cards get reprinted? What new Crypt cards are included?

We have high-capacity Lasombra :laso: politics, !Tremere !trem! allied with Nephandus, !Toreador !tore! Palla Grande breeder, and Tzimisce :tzim: combat wall. Bonus points if the deck is interactive, competitive, and balanced vs the other Sabbat Starters.

3, 2, 1... Go!

Also, @BlackChantry team, why not 5 starters?

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11 Jan 2019 09:42 - 11 Jan 2019 09:44 #92767 by cmdrKEEN
my two cents:

Some Pander deck as they are also an original Sabbat clan like Lasombra and Tzimisce and could use some love.

Another !Malk stealth bleeder deck would be competetive, bring something different tomthe table and are easy to explain to beginners, but we already had so many Malk/!Malk starters

!Ventrue Grinder deck, but they dont really bring any new mechanics into the mix.
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11 Jan 2019 11:52 #92769 by Jazzbeaux
Nosferatu Antitribu? Use some of the cards from Danse Macabre, go with the OBF POT angle.

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11 Jan 2019 12:03 #92770 by Bloodartist

Jazzbeaux wrote: Nosferatu Antitribu? Use some of the cards from Danse Macabre, go with the OBF POT angle.


!nos are a hard deck to make actually competitive xD

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11 Jan 2019 14:21 - 11 Jan 2019 14:23 #92772 by ReverendRevolver
!Ventrue would have been the best choice for this time window for reasons of competitive ability and additions to circulating cardpool:
Eyes of argus, WWS, Bowl, Taste, Hiddenstrength/Indomitability, TV, dating the dawn, freak drive, govern, deflection, conditioning, power powerbases Monty and Barranquilla, Smiling Jack, Abbot, Carlton, Pentex Subversion.

Why weren't they a deck? I dont know but theres an assload of overlap with that list and the 4 decks that exist. Also, too many capable blockers (Nephundi and Tzimisce) would have made them an awkward fit in the "set" ecosystem, since DtD isn't as good when allies are blocking, and theres always the future for more reprints.

Im just baffled Abbot wasn't included. While far from as big an availability problem as on the Q, it goes in many Sabbat decks and this seemed to be an ideal thing to include them in.
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11 Jan 2019 17:29 - 11 Jan 2019 17:32 #92776 by 1uck
I would vote for a Pander deck too. Black Hand might be fun too.
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