file Contents and card changes in 25th Anniversary revealed

05 Jun 2019 10:15 - 05 Jun 2019 10:20 #95208 by Timo

Sambomb wrote: Why change ankara and affect ALL action modifiers breaking a LOT of strategies that dont have ANYTHING related to freak?


OK, let's list what IS "a lot" please.

I chose to show EVERY action modifier costing blood on secret library and after that I looked for every card in the last extension which is IIRC the only one not implemented in secret library.

And I present to you all the ones easily playable by tremere, mata hari, trujah and even gwyedd.

Tremere
Conditioning (OK for this one)
Empowering the puppet King (I imagine a tremere deck with a LOT of EtPK will be dead now)
Hall of Hades court at :dom: (really ??)
Lose cannon at :dom: (not a strategy...)
Perfect Clarity (OK for this one but it goes with conditioning)
Serenading the Kami (why not in a rush combat tremere deck)
Sleeping mind (Could be played with the Conditioning/Perfect Clarity strategy so why not)

Mata Hari :
Blood Brother Ambush (meh...)
Day op (come on...)
Elder Imp and forgotten lab (OK for these ones)
False resonance and fata morgana (I can see something here)
Freak Drive (yes it is here)
The Grandest Trick (no idea with this one)
Igoli's Loyality (:dry:)
Kindred Manipulation (could be great is Mata Hari was not capa 7)
Kiss of Ra (you will lose 2 bloods per use)
Mantle of the moon (maybe...)
Old friends (beurk...)
Red Herring (why not 1 or 2 copies)
Sleep Unseen (great Idea for Mata Hari)
Strange Day (I like this one)
Uncontroled Impulse (OK OK)
Walk through Arcadia (...)
Zapaderin (could be fun)

Trujah :
Aire of Elation (OK)
Approximation of loyalty (why not)
Every :obt: stealth cards for Nehemiah (why not)
Force of personality (it can be played)
Hall of Hades Court (great Idea)
Quicksilver contemplation at :AUS: :TEM: (OK OK)
Tangle Atropo's Hand (good card)


Gwyedd :
Earth control, Mind tricks, Rapid Change (yes)
Horrific countenance (here we speak !)
Touch of clarity (the famous Gwyedd power bleed !)

Now let's look at what we have and tell me exactly which of those strategies are "broken" ?

I see embrace / empowering the puppet king as dead now (was it a strategy ???)
Power bleed tremere will not play AC anymore but I don't think it will be broken (Well a lot of these decks never played it in the first place...)
Mata Hari will need to play less blood costing stealth cards ! (Oh wait, she has :OBF: ...)
Nehemiah :obt: will need to change and I guess we can say this strategy IS broken

So I see 2 strategies being broken (but I personally NEVER see any of these 2 decks I describe) and 1 being mildly annoyed.

I will wait for you to point to me all those strategies being broken by this change to AC.

And honestly, even bad strategies ! I know the game is not only TWD...
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05 Jun 2019 10:23 #95209 by Bloodartist

Ankha wrote:

Vlad wrote: Great move Vincent & the Rules Team!!!
It was time to nerf those cards !!

Credit goes to BCP and the playtesters in fact.


For once, I'm going to give you guys a big thumbs up! :)

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05 Jun 2019 10:34 #95210 by cordovader
Ah, the most poetic thing is all this random people that never made it to a final table saying how “good” this changes are.

You remind me of eunuchs talking about sex.

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05 Jun 2019 11:47 - 05 Jun 2019 11:49 #95211 by Vlad

cordovader wrote: Ah, the most poetic thing is all this random people that never made it to a final table saying how “good” this changes are.

You remind me of eunuchs talking about sex.


Wow Jorge !
That's great reading from you : So people who don't play finals have nothing to say about the game ?!?

That's very rude and elitist...

Btw : sex isn't all about penis & penetration... If you think so I pity you buddy ;)

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05 Jun 2019 11:54 #95212 by cordovader

Vlad wrote:

cordovader wrote: Ah, the most poetic thing is all this random people that never made it to a final table saying how “good” this changes are.

You remind me of eunuchs talking about sex.


Wow Jorge !
That's great reading from you : So people who don't play finals have nothing to say about the game ?!?

That's very rude and elitist...

Btw : sex isn't all about penis & penetration... If you think so I pity you buddy ;)

They can say what they want, but it’s absurd to take into consideration for competitive play the opinions of people that are not into competitive play.

I don’t know, maybe doing a poll on competitive players that don’t have the time to playtest wouldn’t have been a bad idea.

PS : ok I will change my phrase to “like eunuchs talking about penetration”, if it pleases the Scottish Vice-Champion of an 8-player tournament.
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05 Jun 2019 12:09 #95213 by Vlad
LOL Jorge...

So it's down to a dick size competition...

That's so sad...

You should really take a deep breath buddy !!!

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