Which Master do you most hate to see played in a tournament?

david.tatu wrote:

When I play Ashur Tablets, which is in about all my decks (most with only one MPA), I keep my "Top 13" cards on the top of my ash heap once I have an ashur on the table. If I feel like I am giving away info, then I put them all together but inside the heap some place. So when I drop my 3rd one, I pull the cards right out, lay them on the table for all to see, pick the one for my hand and go. It takes more time to shuffle than any other part of the move.

This is superb! All good players do this. It´s in most cases smart, and it´s also good sportmanship.

Juggernaut1981 wrote:

Don't be an ass to people, either currently in the design team or formerly in the design team directly or indirectly.

Please try reading with benevolent eyes before ranting, and take into consideration English is not everyone´s native language.

First: I feel sorry for the playtesters under WW, as I´ve heard plenty of times that they´re opinions were ignored.

Second: The current design team (post the dropout drama) seem competent, impartial and unpretentious – or at least I don´t know otherwise. And we now have more playtesters and more playtesting. What we lack is a totally transparent design process – I hope I´m allowed to state that I wish for this here?

Juggernaut1981 wrote:

>Snip analysis of Girls-decks <

Your analysis is almost spot on. Very good, especially if you don´t have to face this menace every time you play. Yes, it´s totally about abuse of MMPA:s and generic recursion. And yes, it´s a lot about playing solitaire.

I don´t understand why it´s so hard to make anything about these decks. I remember sometime reading posts and talking to people that state that because of Vtes is a card game, it must be more about deck manipulation and recursion. I think this is against the spirit of the game, as it was originally designed (ie, minions taking actions, politics, social gaming etc instead of players shuffling decks and throwing effects and counterspells at each other). I hope these people are not in positions of power when it comes to card/rules design now.

Juggernaut1981 wrote:

This is also the reasons why I hate Heart of Cheating...

But I don´t have the same problem with Heart of Cheating though. It´s unique and it affects all decks similarly – you don´t have to design your deck around it. As a matter of fact I think it´s kind of fun when an otherwise crappy deck puts the Heart into play and suddenly sweeps the table.

The best thing about the Heart is that it ousts players. Sure, it also helps your defense, if it´s what you’re after, but mainly it speeds up tables, which is nice in the current meta.

Juggernaut1981 wrote:

Effect 3: Multi-player Solitaire

Spot on. I hate the combo-decks and solitaire-decks more than anything. I have no idea why cards like for example Una or Eternal Mask is ever printed, but I guess someone in charge get a hard on.

Juggernaut1981 wrote:

1) Creating cards that interfere with others ashheaps efficiently for either defense or ousting capability. This will encourage people to purposefully attack the Girls' ashheap (and limit the value of Ashur tablets) and cripple their recursive ability. "When [Salvager] successfully bleeds your prey, you may burn X random cards from their ashheap to increase the pool burned by your prey by 1"

Yes, but unless you do a large amount of such minions, you have to make it generic cards.

Juggernaut1981 wrote:

2) Creating cards that can effectively cancel a vampire's card text or even somehow allow for the limiting of MMPAs. e.g. "When you control [nasty mo-fo] using effects on a vampire that are not stealth, intercept or strength cost that minion 1 blood.", "While [Jim Bob the Destroyer] is ready, your prey must burn 1 pool to use MPAs.", "While [Steve-Dave] is ready each non-trifle MPA beyond the first costs every Methuselah 1 additional pool".

It does not have to me minion cards. I have nothing against for example a master or an event that make masters cost more, especially masters after the first every turn.