Impulse, The As Played Window and You...
23 Sep 2011 06:36 #10842
by Lönkka
The actual terms are declared after the Political Action (PS) is succesful.
BUT people tend to want to discuss terms beforehand as to know whether they should just DI Parity Shift immediately or not (or intercept the political action). Just for safety's sake.
In such discussions you could claim that you're not going to pick the player who is pondering DIing as a target (in order, well, not to get the PS DI'd). And if no-one intercepts and voting ensues, you could pick that player as the target of the PS and it would be well too late for her to DI or intercept the action. This is called deal breaking and in some countries is considered bad form and elsewhere clever play...
Replied by Lönkka on topic Re: Impulse, The As Played Window and You...
Declaring terms is done before DI gets to be played. Hence, I suppose, the confusion of the OP.
This means that you declare terms before you replace your card, because you play D.I. before you replace the card. Wow. I guess a lot of people are going to have to start changing how we announce actions.
The actual terms are declared after the Political Action (PS) is succesful.
BUT people tend to want to discuss terms beforehand as to know whether they should just DI Parity Shift immediately or not (or intercept the political action). Just for safety's sake.
In such discussions you could claim that you're not going to pick the player who is pondering DIing as a target (in order, well, not to get the PS DI'd). And if no-one intercepts and voting ensues, you could pick that player as the target of the PS and it would be well too late for her to DI or intercept the action. This is called deal breaking and in some countries is considered bad form and elsewhere clever play...
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23 Sep 2011 08:45 #10845
by Juggernaut1981
Baron of Sydney, Australia, 418
Replied by Juggernaut1981 on topic Re: Impulse, The As Played Window and You...
Let me tell you that in general, you shouldn't break deals in Australia if they don't get you a VP immediately... If you break deals, some players will never make a deal with you again.
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26 Mar 2012 10:06 #26626
by Ankha
This is wrong (I wonder where you got that from). You play the "as the action is announced" cards/effects one by one, replacing them one after the other.
I think Floppy is the most adequate person to produce a faq.
Replied by Ankha on topic Re: Impulse, The As Played Window and You...
+1. The initial post not being updated and containing obvious errors such as :It may be worth just deleting the whole thread as the initial post is incorrect on both accounts.
Brum's and Pascal's rulings are of course correct, but when I came here to read this thread, which is obviously meant as a way to explain some of the more obscure and confusing rules to people, I was like "ummm... no?" I appreciate the effort, but don't make these threads if you are not 100% sure how it works. It took me 20 seconds to find the relevant rulings one Usenet.
When you declare an action:
- All cards you must play when an action "is Announced" are also played before drawing cards back to your hand size (in the game's terms they were played simultaneously)
Example:
Methuselah X has tapped Banjoko and wants to play a Govern the Unaligned at [dom] and also play Seduction at [DOM] targeting Cock Robin. Methuselah X needs to play both cards from their hand at the same time.
This is wrong (I wonder where you got that from). You play the "as the action is announced" cards/effects one by one, replacing them one after the other.
I think Floppy is the most adequate person to produce a faq.
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