times Errata's on tournament cards

16 Feb 2011 15:07 #1623 by Pascal Bertrand
The thing is: genuine cards are what they are. They can't be altered. They were printed that way. Anything that is not a genuine card can't be taken for certain. I'm not saying using pieces of paper enables cheating, but suppose someone uses FELDB's cardtexts (or ARDB, or .. or anything that isn't directly generated by WW / CCP / the VEKN) rather than the official cardtexts as their source, their prints can be incorrect.


a) You don't need to start checking for updated cardtexts the day before the event. You could practice before that, and then the need for papers has gone.


b) It's good if the judge trusts the players. I, as a judge, don't. That's another discussion, but basically, it ensures that if the same question is asked at two tables, they get the same answer ( == mine).

c) My criterium would be - if you play the card, you should know what the erratum / .. is. Otherwise, being aware that the printed cardtext isn't up-to-date is enough. The judge (or the other players, if everyone trusts one another on rules questions) could be called if the exact cardtext can't be given.

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16 Feb 2011 22:02 #1652 by Pullen
You can do basically the same thing, but have them off to the side. So print up the legal text on say index cards and show them to a judge before the tourney starts and have him sign them to show that he recognizes them as legal text, then if a player want the legal text, you pull out the text for that card. If they want the judge to come over still it should only be one trip, if the player constantly want judge approval dispute this, call for stalling.

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16 Feb 2011 22:55 #1656 by Adonai

You can do basically the same thing, but have them off to the side. So print up the legal text ...


like the Offline Judges Kit...

www.vekn.net/images/stories/downloads/vtes-offline-judges-kit.zip
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17 Feb 2011 17:33 #1688 by Joscha
Just use the sticky part of a post-it and everything should be fine. If I'd be the judge of the tournament I'd not have any problem. As long as the piece of paper doesn't show at the corner of the sleeve and is thin enough to allow normal shuffling there is nothing wrong about it. I sticked little names on my War Ghouls I played. That never caused anyone to protest. Most people liked the idea to 'personalize' the Ghouls to make clear announcements who tries to block.

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17 Feb 2011 17:39 #1689 by Lönkka

I sticked little names on my War Ghouls I played. That never caused anyone to protest.

Similarily a couple of years ago in EC (Göteborg/Gothenburg IIRC) I seem to recall one guy playing an Embrace deck with all Embraces having different pics of the same porn star (Jenna Jameson?). Good fun especially as no naughty bits were in the pics.

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17 Feb 2011 19:57 #1697 by Juggernaut1981
Personally, I'd be wanting players with cards that have alternate card-text to the printed text to bring the correct text on something like index cards. Firstly so they can conceal the fact they are using the card until they play a copy. Secondly so that as a Judge it could be easily checked/edited. Thirdly, so that people on the table can just get handed the index card with the information on it.

Of course, many people might find that too much setup. I understand that. But honestly if you did it slowly over time (say in the down-time between social games at your FLGS) then the burden is far less and index cards are pretty darn cheap.

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