Arcane Appraiser vs. Palatial Estate

Name: Palatial Estate
[DS:C2, FN:PR, Third:PM]
Cardtype: Equipment
Cost: 2 blood
This equipment card represents a location and does not count as equipment while in play. Unique.
During your master phase, the vampire with this location gains 1 blood.

Palatial Estate is an unique equipment. It would become something else once in play, but this is after it enters play or become contested.

islandofyiaros wrote:

Arcane Appraiser says:
"If a second copy of a unique equipment card you control would enter play, it is burned instead."

Is a Palatial Estate which is entering play considered an equipment card? And is it an "equipment card", but not "equipment"? Not sure if Arcane Appraiser protects me or not...

Yes, it is an unique equipment card that would enter play (and that would become a location if it wasn't contested)
The Arcane Appraiser works.

Kiddo wrote:

Ankha wrote:

Yes, it is an unique equipment card that would enter play (and that would become a location if it wasn't contested)

Kiddo wrote:

Ankha wrote:

The Arcane Appraiser works.

Are you sure? By the time the second unique equipment is trying to enter play (and thus contest), the first one isn't an equipment any more...

Well, that is an interesting question. The first quote is valid for sure. See also groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!msg/rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad/XpZ6F53jK-c/2qcHRJ1UCCMJ

The second quote about the Arcane Appraiser is tricky.

I would have said that there is currently an [unique(1)][equipment card(2)] called [Palatial Estaste(1)] in play that counts for a [location(1)].

(1): by card text
(2): because of the symbol on the card. As the rulebook states: "Equipment cards are action cards that give minions special abilities."

The trick is that though it is an "equipment card", it is not an "equipment" while in play. Think about the difference between a bleed action and a bleed for instance.

So yes, there is already a second copy of an unique "equipment card" in play (even though the card is no longer seen as an equipment but a location).

I'm a bit bugged by some current cardtexts such as:

Name: Conceal
Cardtype: Action
Discipline: Obfuscate
[obf] Burn an equipment card.
[OBF] Burn a location.

Why on earth does it say "Burn an equipment card." instead of "Burn an equipment." ?
It does say "Burn a location" and not "Burn a location card" for instance.

Same thing for Alexis Sorokin, Arcane Appraiser (it's first special ability), Arcanum Investigator, Heidelberg Castle, Germany, Kiss of Lachesis, Molotov Cocktail, Principia Discordia, Reformation, Tara, The Hollow One (Mage), Tutu the Doubly Evil One (Bane Mummy), Vial of Garou Blood, Zip Gun

It is correct to refer to equipment cards when search the library (or ash heap, or hand....) for instance.

Name: Alastor
Cardtype: Political Action
Requires a justicar or Inner Circle member.
Choose a ready Camarilla vampire. If this referendum is successful, search your library for an equipment card and place this card and the equipment on the chosen vampire. Pay half the cost (round down) of the equipment. This vampire may enter combat with any vampire controlled by another Methuselah as a +1 stealth action. This vampire cannot commit diablerie. A vampire may have only one Alastor.