file Spirit Marionette and War Ghoul

07 Apr 2014 21:25 #60743 by Franz
A vampire with superior OBEAH targets an untapped Warghoul from his prey with a Superior Spirit Marionette and the action succeeds. Can the methuselah use the War Ghoul's ability of tapping and burning a location from his prey before he is obligated to bleed with said War Ghoul?

I think that the answer is yes, since the War Ghoul's ability is not an action, so no other action is beeing taken before the mandatory bleed action, but I'd like confirmation please.

Thanks a bunch

Spirit Marionette
Type: Action
Requires: Obeah/Dominate
[dom] (D) Bleed at +1 bleed.
[obe] (D) Bleed at +1 bleed and tap a ready minion controlled by your prey (even if the target of the bleed is changed).
[OBE] +1 stealth action. (D) Take control of a ready untapped minion until the end of the next action. That minion must bleed your prey unless he or she must hunt.

War Ghoul
Type: Ally
Requires: Tzimisce
Cost: 3 pool
Ghoul with 5 life. 4 strength, 0 bleed.
When War Ghoul enters play, burn an ally or retainer you control. She can enter combat with any ready vampire controlled by another Methuselah as a (D) action. She may prevent 1 damage each round. Tap and burn War Ghoul to burn any location; you cannot use this ability during combat.

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07 Apr 2014 22:01 #60745 by prestonp
Yes you can. There is a pause for effects before actions.

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07 Apr 2014 22:46 #60746 by Juggernaut1981
Mandatory actions must be taken before other actions.

The Warghoul effect would use the same sort of time window as a Heidelberg Castle so you could easily do that.

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08 Apr 2014 05:52 #60756 by TapeTaChatte
mighht be a stupid question, but, can you burn the war ghoul (assuming you manage to untap it during the action) after the bleed is successful but before the end of the action?

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08 Apr 2014 06:14 #60757 by Pascal Bertrand

Mandatory actions must be taken before other actions.

The Warghoul effect would use the same sort of time window as a Heidelberg Castle so you could easily do that.

Especially, the War Ghoul's ability not being an action, it doesn't have to be ordered sequenced with the bleed.

mighht be a stupid question, but, can you burn the war ghoul (assuming you manage to untap it during the action) after the bleed is successful but before the end of the action?

Yes, it can be used anytime during an action. This includes the Enkil Cog / Voter Capt / Freak Drive window.

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08 Apr 2014 17:15 #60779 by ReverendRevolver
A smart war ghoul player would probably burn the spirit marionette decks heidleberg before the marionette suceeds.......

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