file The Sleeping Mind vs "as though untapped"

09 Dec 2014 03:35 #68051 by mirddes
which untap cards does the sleeping mind work against?

which untap cards does it not work against?

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09 Dec 2014 06:08 #68052 by Ankha

which untap cards does the sleeping mind work against?

which untap cards does it not work against?

Cardtext?

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09 Dec 2014 07:39 #68055 by a-e

which untap cards does the sleeping mind work against?

which untap cards does it not work against?


At superior it prevents minions to untap during action, so reactions like Second Tradition, Black Sunrise or Eluding the Arms of Morpheus can't be played. It also prevents you to untap with Freak Drive or Forced March. Or if the action is blocked or action itself results a combat, superior Majesty or Earth Meld can't be played to untap in combat. Reactions that allow to block or play cards as untapped can be played, as those don't untap the reacting minion.

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11 Dec 2014 02:10 - 11 Dec 2014 02:55 #68093 by mirddes
The Sleeping Mind
:modifier:
Only usable when the action is announced.
:dom: Choose a tapped vampire. He or she cannot attempt to block this action.
:DOM: Minions cannot untap during this action.


Meld with the Land
:combat:
:vic: combat ends and untap the opposing minion (even at long range).
:VIC: Strike: combat ends.

does :DOM: negate the untap from :vic: ?

I'm thinking yes.
Last edit: 11 Dec 2014 02:55 by mirddes.

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11 Dec 2014 05:09 #68095 by a-e

The Sleeping Mind
:modifier:
Only usable when the action is announced.
:dom: Choose a tapped vampire. He or she cannot attempt to block this action.
:DOM: Minions cannot untap during this action.


Meld with the Land
:combat:
:vic: combat ends and untap the opposing minion (even at long range).
:VIC: Strike: combat ends.

does :DOM: negate the untap from :vic: ?

I'm thinking yes.


It doesn't just negate the effect. Superior Sleeping Mind forbids you to play inferior Meld with the Land, because minions cannot untap during the action. So if superior Sleeping Mind is played on action, no card or effect can be played at all that would untap any minion during that action.

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11 Dec 2014 05:20 #68096 by mirddes
inferior meld with the land seems like it could be slightly useful for cross-table support when the (other)table-threat can be leveraged against..

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