file Seeds of Corruption clarifications

18 Jun 2015 16:34 - 18 Jun 2015 17:13 #71778 by Sambomb
Seeds of Corruption

+1 stealth action.
:tha: (D) Put this card on one of your prey's vampires. If the vampire is a Follower of Set, he or she burns 2 additional blood when attempting an action; otherwise, he or she burns 1 additional blood when attempting an action. The vampire's special abilities cannot be used. Any vampire(s) may burn this card with two +1 stealth actions.
:THA: As above, but the vampire burns 2 additional blood when attempting an action; Followers of Set burn 3 additional blood.

Ruling: "Special ability" includes all text except terms (i.e., it doesn't include Clan, Sect, Title, Unique (or not), Blood Cursed, Circle, Flight, Infernal, Scarce, Slave, Sterile, Vulnerability, Anarch, Black Hand, Seraph, Red List). (note that this only restricts things that are possible only by special ability - things that a special ability makes impossible are still impossible.) [LSJ 19970801][LSJ 20011211][LSJ 20040120][RTR 20040501]

Ruling: The vampire burns blood for Seeds of Corruption when the action is attempted. [LSJ 19971013]

  • Ruling: "Special ability" includes all text except terms
  • +x bleed, +x stealth, +x intercept, +x strength, +x votes, are those considered terms?

    !gang! Enkidu, the noah

    Sabbat. Red List: Enkidu can enter combat with any minion as a (D) action. If Enkidu successfully performs an action to employ a retainer, he untaps at the end of the turn. He cannot have or use equipment. +2 strength.


    The Enkidu under Seeds of corruption will be?

    !gang! Enkidu, the noah

    Sabbat. Red List: Enkidu can enter combat with any minion as a (D) action. If Enkidu successfully performs an action to employ a retainer, he untaps at the end of the turn. He cannot have or use equipment. +2 strength.



  • things that a special ability makes impossible are still impossible.

  • Mimir special hability that disallow other players to play masters will not be changed affected, right?

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    18 Jun 2015 16:47 #71779 by Klaital
    So... exactly what is the question here?

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    18 Jun 2015 16:51 #71780 by BenPeal
    Can we please ban this card already?

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    18 Jun 2015 16:52 #71781 by BenPeal

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    18 Jun 2015 17:03 #71782 by Sambomb
    1- +x bleed, +x stealth, +x intercept, +x strength, +x votes, are those considered terms
    2- Mimir special hability that disallow other players to play masters will not be changed affected, right?

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    18 Jun 2015 17:25 #71783 by Klaital
    Well the Enkidu example you posted in your original post quite clearly shows that +strength is disabled by seeds, which to me indicates that the same goes for bleed, stealth, and intercept. Not sure about Mimir though.

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