Dam the Heart's River and Catatonic Fear

TwoRazorReign wrote:

Ankha wrote:

TwoRazorReign wrote:

Is there a reason why Catatonic Fear doesn't say "this strike inflicts 1 damage after combat ends if this strike was made at close range"?

What difference would you see?

That the damage is from the strike. In the current text, it's unclear who or what is inflicting damage.

" Strike: combat ends.

As above, and inflict 1 damage to the opposing minion once combat ends if the range is close."

Ke. wrote:

Ankha wrote:

I thought it was clear: Dam gives +1 damage to the Catatonic Fear strike since it was "made against the opposing minion" when Dam was active. (The "in combat" part indicates that the effect lasts for the combat, not just the round which is the default duration). When the Catatonic Fear strike resolves, it ends combats, then inflicts 1+1 damage.

So just to be extra clear; are you overruling Pascal's ruling below?

Pascal wrote:

Catatonic Fear's damage isn't "boosted" by Dam the Heart's River, as it isn't inflicted "this combat", but "once this combat ends" (== "after combat ends"). So, your math is correct 2 (OtH) + 1 (DtHB) + 1 (CF) = 4 damage - but not 4+1(DtHB).

Squidalot wrote:

Pascal's would appear to be wrong looking at the rulings of Nephandus and Cataonic Fear [Nephandus reduces Catatonic damage]

Nephandus (Mage)
Type: Ally
Requires: Tremere antitribu
Cost: 2 pool
Mage with 2 life. 0 strength, 1 bleed.
The Nephandus may strike for 1R damage. The Nephandus gets an optional press each combat. Each strike or damaging effect made against the Nephandus by the opposing minion during combat inflicts 1 less damage. The Nephandus may burn a vampire in torpor to gain 1 life as a action.

Pertinent card text: "Each strike". "During combat" modifies strike, not damage, and the strike was indeed made in combat (as all strikes are).