file Please can we change the vampire contesting rule?

16 May 2018 22:16 #87015 by talonz
talonz replied the topic: Please can we change the vampire contesting rule?
Contesting sucks. Basically lost me the finals of one tournament that I remember for instance.

Id be for instant auction.

And/or whever someone concedes, they remove their copy from the game and return all blood on them to their pool.

Anything to soften the blow (But the flipping option which is just messy).

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17 May 2018 07:19 #87038 by Lönkka
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I rather like the idea jamesatzephyr has presented.

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17 May 2018 09:59 #87052 by thelonius reloaded
thelonius reloaded replied the topic: Please can we change the vampire contesting rule?
Vampires have different level of power balancing. Sometimes you have to choose (in tournament environment) which vampire would be unlikely to contest with others... if we change (or remove) the contesting rule, we lose a lot of flavour and of balancing of the game.

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Round 1 contested with my predator
Round 2 contested with my prey
Round 3 contested with my grandpredator)

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17 May 2018 11:03 #87056 by Kraus
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thelonius reloaded wrote: Vampires have different level of power balancing. Sometimes you have to choose (in tournament environment) which vampire would be unlikely to contest with others... if we change (or remove) the contesting rule, we lose a lot of flavour and of balancing of the game.

(Italian EC, in Genoa, day 2:
Round 1 contested with my predator
Round 2 contested with my prey
Round 3 contested with my grandpredator)

The suggested rules variant will still punish players for playing only the most popular choices. It's just not that crippling. Remember that only one copy can still remain in the game.

Even in the least punishing scenario you'll lose one turn's worth of actions/blocks (cap1-4) and transfers, the worst possible scenario 3-4 turns of transfers (if you're not starting with a full set of 4), and that's crippling AF. Even if you get the pool back for your Stanislava, you lost half of your game's worth of actions.

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17 May 2018 15:56 #87068 by Kushiel
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thelonius reloaded wrote: Vampires have different level of power balancing. Sometimes you have to choose (in tournament environment) which vampire would be unlikely to contest with others...


And sometimes you choose vampires who are unlikely to be contested and they get contested anyway, randomly screwing you and another player out of getting to play.

The current vampire contestation rules are bad.

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18 May 2018 14:38 #87128 by ReverendRevolver
ReverendRevolver replied the topic: Please can we change the vampire contesting rule?

Brum wrote: ...

Then again why should a third party win because two unlucky guys contest.


Because I played a Bindusara deck and my opponents played the clearly superior Maryanne Blair

:)

But no, contesting randomly punishes people for playing good vamps, especially ones with utility (Owain) and I'd like it more if it did more than this.

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