file Clan/Sect requirements and changing allegiance

03 Aug 2018 11:24 #89590 by avgrund
Good day fellow cold corpses.

Cards requiring a certain discipline/clan/sect must be played by a minion/vampire which have/fulfill these; but can these cards be stolen or acquired by minions not fulfilling the same?

For example a clan specific weapon on a vampire which is diablerized by another. Or a laibon retainer already on a vampire which changes sects.

Any special circumstance where this would be feasible (or not)?

Thanks for your help!

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03 Aug 2018 11:30 - 03 Aug 2018 11:33 #89591 by Kraus
Hello!

Some clan specific cards have the requirement only in the initial equip action/occasion. They are free to be used by others however. For example, Blade of Bellona can be used by anyone but has to be equipped initially by a !salu! .

Some cards specify that a certain requirement be met to be able to use it. Sword of Judgement is an example for these kinds of equipment.

Name: Blade of Bellona
[LK:4]
Cardtype: Equipment
Clan: Salubri antitribu
Melee weapon.
Strike: strength +1 damage, with 1 optional maneuver each combat, only usable to maneuver to close range.
Artist: Ginés Quiñonero

Name: Sword of Judgment
[Sabbat:R, SW:R/PB, Third:R]
Cardtype: Equipment
Clan: Brujah antitribu
Cost: 2 pool
Unique melee weapon.
Strength+1 damage each strike, with an optional additional strike each round. Only usable by Brujah antitribu.
Artist: Richard Thomas


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03 Aug 2018 11:32 #89592 by jamesatzephyr

Cards requiring a certain discipline/clan/sect must be played by a minion/vampire which have/fulfill these; but can these cards be stolen or acquired by minions not fulfilling the same?


In general terms, yes - requirements are only important for playing the card. A Raven Spy requires Animalism, but once it's in play, you could move it to another vampire without any Animalism using Heidelberg Castle.

You might have a card, however, like Sword of Judgment which also includes the text: "Only usable by Brujah antitribu." And while a minion who is not a Brujah antitribu could have it, they couldn't use it.
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03 Aug 2018 12:09 - 03 Aug 2018 12:09 #89596 by Ankha
Some cards also use the following pattern:
"Requires a Sabbat vampire.
This Sabbat vampire can..."

If the card is moved to another vampire who is not Sabbat, that vampire cannot use the card.

There is a third way restrictions in use can be written such as Bowl of Convergence:

"If the bearer is a vampire who has Auspex [aus], the bearer gets +1 intercept. ..." which is the same as "The bearer with Auspex [aus] gets +1 intercept."

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