file Powerbase Tshwane and Concealed Weapon

17 Sep 2018 21:11 #90658 by nergalmcl
Combat Situation
Player 1: Before range is determined he plays Concealed Weapon + 44 Magnum.
Can he tap Powerbase Tshwane to reduce the cost from the 44 Magnum equiped with Concealed Weapon?

Concealed Weapon
Only usable before range is determined. Equip with a non-unique weapon card from your hand (requirements and cost apply as normal). The weapon cannot cost 3 or more pool or inflict with a regular strike aggravated damage or 4 or more damage.

Powerbase: Tshwane
Unique location. Requires a ready Laibon. Lock to reduce the cost of a card you play by 1 pool (this location is not locked if that card is canceled as it is played). Any Laibon can steal this location as a (D) action.

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17 Sep 2018 21:42 #90659 by Klaital
Don't see why not.
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18 Sep 2018 00:32 #90661 by kschaefer
Yes. Cost-effecting cards work regardless of the method that is used to play the card.

groups.google.com/d/msg/rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad/cAGuCHSPIMY/22_BPQF8kMQJ
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18 Sep 2018 21:24 #90670 by nergalmcl
Thank you all.

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20 Sep 2018 07:35 #90683 by Kraus
A wee bit of a follow up question:

If I would reduce the cost of a 3 pool weapon to 2 with Tshwane, would I be able to equip it with Concealed Weapon?

The Line ruling was that I could attempt a 2 blood action at 1 blood if I reduce the cost 'as announced' with Line.

Name: The Line
[Anthology:1]
Cardtype: Master
Unique location.
Lock to reduce the cost of an action card played by a vampire you control by 1 blood (this location is not locked if that card is canceled as it is played). Any vampire can steal this location as a (D) action.
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20 Sep 2018 08:40 #90684 by jamesatzephyr

If I would reduce the cost of a 3 pool weapon to 2 with Tshwane, would I be able to equip it with Concealed Weapon?


Yes: groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad/hUb4elzp5rA/mMWcTbC0uhQJ
A question came up on IRC regarding whether or not you could use cards
such as Powerbase: Tshwane and Eccentric Billionaire to affect the cost
of cards not played in the normal fashion, such as with Concealed
Weapon. In particular, this was in the light of the 7/7/7 ruling:

All cost-affecting cards operate no matter how the card is
played ("as normal" or otherwise). All multiplication and
division is handled first, followed by addition and subtraction.

Obviously, this affects "always on" cards, like Black Cat, but it wasn't
clear whether Powerbase: Tshwane or Eccentric Billionaire would be
affected, because they're both "tap to..." effects. Similarly Baldesar
can optionally reduce the cost of one card (with no tap).

<LSJ> I guess so, sure. Tshwane is OK for CW.
...
<Dorrinal> That also extends to Billionaires, I guess?
<LSJ> Yeah

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