Passing the turn at the last second of the game

jaakkon wrote:

Player A passes their turn after their master phase, without a discard. Player X, seeing the time run out, calls timeout, but there's no audible alarm until in a second.

jaakkon wrote:

How would this go in a tournament?

1. Whose turn was it when the game timed out?
2. Does Player B's unlock phase start immediately when player A passes their turn?
3. Or does player B need to acknowledge this somehow?

jaakkon wrote:

The tournament rules say

The game will end with the current minion action - if any -, or at the end of the current phase, if the notification didn't happen during the minion phase.

(www.vekn.net/tournament-rules/3-tournament-mechanics section 3.1.1. Round Time Limits)

That implies that if Player B starts their unlock phase before the time runs out, they must finish the phase, meaning they would be ousted.

Timo wrote:

Ankha wrote:

3- B has to pass the impulse because B can play effects during A's turn, such as using a Barrens during B's discard phase.

Does it means that if B (or anyone else) has any effect playable during player's A discard phase, they could decide to use it and then impulse would go back to player A who would have to pass again

Timo wrote:

which would gain easily 5 seconds of game ?

Timo wrote:

Player A states "end of turn" which basically means "I pass the impulse".
Nobody on the table has anything that could be used during A's turn (Barrens or the like).

Player B would be ousted if his turn begins says
"I pass the impulse."
And then ask every other players still in the game :
"do you pass ?"

And technically, the turn would ends only when everyone has "passed" and when the timer rings with 1 or 2 players not having stated they have passed Player B is not ousted.

As a judge, I would handle that this is clearly stalling and would result in additional time to reach B turn.

Timo wrote:

And now, the in between situation :
For further shenanigans, let's say this is the final of a tournament and B is first seed and nobody was ousted until now.

And player D has a barrens in play.

B specifically asks player D if he wants to use his barrens.

This could be a legitimate question because D could draw a life boon which could effectively give him the Tournament win.

And here, I think we have the easy situation :
- D effectively use his barrens and pass and player A don't have the time to pass again : B win

Timo wrote:

Or the not so easy situation :
- D knows he doesn't have anything in his deck that could possibly change the state of the game and pass without doing anything but the few seconds lost prevent E to pass before the timer rings.
In this situation, B is not really stalling because the state of the game could have effectively changed.

So how should we rule this situation ?

Timo wrote:

My question is more that if nobody does anything except B asking everybody if they want to use the impulse and nobody does but the timer rings during that time we are in the "technicals" here and nobody having done anything with the impulse, could it be ruled that the turn effectively ended when A said "end of turn" 5 seconds ago ?