Proxy Comunity

I completely agree. And how do you propose that the VEKN do that, to officially suggest how players play in their non-tournament games?

In reality, VEKN already does. It's just not explicit. Players come to VEKN for card rulings all the time having to do with non VEKN games. I don't see anyone saying, "Oh, that wasn't in a VEKN tournament, so we don't care if your playgroup let Sheldon play Cloak the Gathering while in torpor."

First, I'm not a VEKN representative,

You are a moderator on these forums.

assuming you were talking about me, how do you get snide and divisive from a one-line comment with a smiley face on it? Or, if you were talking about someone else, what did they say that you interpreted as snide and divisive?

Perhaps you weren't being snide. But I saw no reason to post said statement and interpreted it as snide and confrontational. If that is not the case, I apologize.

How does that fact change the VEKN from a group that you agree doesn't care about non-tournament play to a group that you think should care and say and/or do something official in regards to non-tournament play???

Maybe VEKN should care?

JOL received the authorization from CCP both to operate and to collect operating expenses. I know nothing about the other two websites.

That is pretty cool, I did not know that

I'm not sure how you come to this opinion, but no one is stifling any discussion here.

Once again, it is my interpretation that your allegedly snide comment was stifling.

And what legal research have you done to know this for certain? Perhaps you have another example of a completely dead CCG, with no manufacturer product left to sell, having sold it all to third-parties and emptied their warehouses, that has filed an injunction or a lawsuit to stop proxies from being used? I await your reply.

My statement was based on the assumption that VEKN as an organization was interested in covering its ass should someone decide to sue. There isn't a lot (if any) money involved. VEKN doesn't collect dues or charge admission or sell any goods or services. But that means there isn't any money to mount a defense against someone like this asshole .

It takes like 35 years for the rights to artwork to revert back to the artist. So, when I retire and my vampire cards have long fallen into the ocean after "the big earthquake" and Anson Maddocks sues VEKN to remove his images from use in V:tES proxies, I am going to have to use this as a proxie:

direwolf wrote:

But that means there isn't any money to mount a defense against someone like this asshole .

Wow. What a complete, total ass. I bet he sees himself as an evil genius of some kind. The M of his middle name must stand for "Majornuisance"

KevinM wrote:

First, I'm not a VEKN representative,

direwolf wrote:

You are a moderator on these forums.

Not quite correct. I'm a moderator on ONE of the forums. Not this one, and not a public forum, either. Because VEKN has granted me moderator-status on a single forum does not make me a representative of the VEKN, except on that single forum. I'm sorry the software doesn't allow the users to see this clearly.

KevinM wrote:

And what legal research have you done to know this for certain?

direwolf wrote:

My statement was based on the assumption that VEKN as an organization was interested in covering its ass should someone decide to sue.

No, you made a statement about liability. Either you have knowledge that the VEKN would like to know about regarding liability, or you were talking out of your butt. If you do, then, again: I await your legal brief to the VEKN on the subject.

Reyda wrote:

direwolf wrote:

But that means there isn't any money to mount a defense against someone like this asshole .

Wow. What a complete, total ass. I bet he sees himself as an evil genius of some kind. The M of his middle name must stand for "Majornuisance"

Google his name and you will see that his case is falling apart. Maybe he will learn too late that just because the law gives you the ability to do something doesn't mean that you should.

Evolution at work people... Just when you think things are idiot proof, the universe makes you a better idiot.

brandonsantacruz wrote:

Google his name

With or without the M?