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Lilith's Blessing... a poor NYC prince simple question
27 Apr 2012 12:45 #28812
by Pendargon
Replied by Pendargon on topic Re: Lilith's Blessing... a poor NYC prince simple question
i have actually seen Multiple master phase decks make use of more than one Lilith's blessing more than once.
It is not unique, so no harm in playing that second, or third copy if you have then in hand and can spare 1 pool to cycle your hand.
I have seen two lilith's blessings tapped during same turn by the same player...
I voted that it needs to be unique several months back when the poll ran. NOw, i am more for banning the stuff. And i was never in favor of banning anything, not even pentex. I do not know about other meta's , but nowadays it seems to me that ALL i see on tables, regardless almost of what is the deck, is villein and Lilith's blessing. And i do think that lilith's blessing is the problem here, not villeins.
Sorry for the rant. Just my 2 cents
It is not unique, so no harm in playing that second, or third copy if you have then in hand and can spare 1 pool to cycle your hand.
I have seen two lilith's blessings tapped during same turn by the same player...
I voted that it needs to be unique several months back when the poll ran. NOw, i am more for banning the stuff. And i was never in favor of banning anything, not even pentex. I do not know about other meta's , but nowadays it seems to me that ALL i see on tables, regardless almost of what is the deck, is villein and Lilith's blessing. And i do think that lilith's blessing is the problem here, not villeins.
Sorry for the rant. Just my 2 cents
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27 Apr 2012 12:57 #28813
by Louhi
Of course, as pendargon pointed out, you might just play the copies if you really need to unclog your hand but that's not a very nice way of using your master phase action.
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Replied by Louhi on topic Re: Lilith's Blessing... a poor NYC prince simple question
That's true. On the other hand Villein + lilith as it is eats master phases so you might not have the spare master phase actions to do that. If you do have spare masters you might not have an optimal master package. It's also a huge risk to play anthelios if there's a master reliant deck on the table that will gain a LOT more from it.Not if you can cycle them with Anthelios.
Of course, as pendargon pointed out, you might just play the copies if you really need to unclog your hand but that's not a very nice way of using your master phase action.
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27 Apr 2012 15:08 #28820
by Reyda
Sorry my friend, no offense but i just stopped reading at this point since it came clear that you never saw the card in action.
Nice effort though.
Imagination is our only weapon in the war against reality -Jules de Gaultier
Replied by Reyda on topic Re: Lilith's Blessing... a poor NYC prince simple question
It's probably likely you get to use Lilith's Blessing once in a game if you don't cut corners.
Sorry my friend, no offense but i just stopped reading at this point since it came clear that you never saw the card in action.
Nice effort though.
Imagination is our only weapon in the war against reality -Jules de Gaultier
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27 Apr 2012 15:29 #28822
by Suoli
Knowing Xaddam's reputation and track record at high level tournaments, I find your response amusing.
Replied by Suoli on topic Re: Lilith's Blessing... a poor NYC prince simple question
It's probably likely you get to use Lilith's Blessing once in a game if you don't cut corners.
Sorry my friend, no offense but i just stopped reading at this point since it came clear that you never saw the card in action.
Nice effort though.
Knowing Xaddam's reputation and track record at high level tournaments, I find your response amusing.
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27 Apr 2012 17:21 #28831
by Reyda
Imagination is our only weapon in the war against reality -Jules de Gaultier
Replied by Reyda on topic Re: Lilith's Blessing... a poor NYC prince simple question
excuse me but did I say anything about his tournament achievements ? I think not.
Did I say that he didn't really see the card in action. I think I did.
Thanks for your aknowledgement of this simple fact.
Did I say that he didn't really see the card in action. I think I did.
Thanks for your aknowledgement of this simple fact.
Imagination is our only weapon in the war against reality -Jules de Gaultier
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27 Apr 2012 19:28 - 27 Apr 2012 19:32 #28838
by Surreal
I really don't think this is the case. What I feel is Sweden has the one of the most "competetive" metagame but of course I can't say this as a fact. You have to think also that metagame shifts if Villein (+Lilith) is played a lot. Change of meta game is not necessary a bad thing. You just have to adapt and think what you will face. Just bloating will rarely win and I am glad that more players realize that just sitting on your place won't make you win.
I know Xaddam has a lot of tournament experience. You can just see the huge experience and benefit also for the whole community when listening the podcasts. You seem to play the card "He doesn't have any real tournament experience" to other posters very easily. At least you should have the courage to post what is your experience. If you don't do this I really can't see you as only troll in Vekn forum.
Replied by Surreal on topic Re: Lilith's Blessing... a poor NYC prince simple question
excuse me but did I say anything about his tournament achievements ? I think not.
Did I say that he didn't really see the card in action. I think I did.
Thanks for your aknowledgement of this simple fact.
I really don't think this is the case. What I feel is Sweden has the one of the most "competetive" metagame but of course I can't say this as a fact. You have to think also that metagame shifts if Villein (+Lilith) is played a lot. Change of meta game is not necessary a bad thing. You just have to adapt and think what you will face. Just bloating will rarely win and I am glad that more players realize that just sitting on your place won't make you win.
I know Xaddam has a lot of tournament experience. You can just see the huge experience and benefit also for the whole community when listening the podcasts. You seem to play the card "He doesn't have any real tournament experience" to other posters very easily. At least you should have the courage to post what is your experience. If you don't do this I really can't see you as only troll in Vekn forum.
Last edit: 27 Apr 2012 19:32 by Surreal.
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