Which clan has the best set of vampires within one group?

Raznuts wrote:

Carna toolbox g3 even better then the !Tremere

In which regard ? Having less coherent discipline ? Being bigger for the same discipline ?

Carna is awesome, like each and every vampires with +1 intercept, and camarilla title are better than sabbat one. But for the rest, I fail being impressed.

Actually, the GR2 Ravnos have awesome discipline spreads. Too bad they are not so competitive anyway

I also love gr2 !brujah, they define the celegun archetype so well.

G4 Imbued

G2 Ahrimanes has proven to be very solid over the years.

but the grand prize would obviously go to G2 Pander.

Haze wrote:

G4 Imbued

G2 Ahrimanes has proven to be very solid over the years.

It's funny because I really think that with the advent of animalism combat, the grouping 4 is waaaay better in terms pure damage dealing. No, Muricia does not have a manoeuver, but when you play aid from bats & swiftnesses, do you really care ?

As for the Pander, I think the most recent have horrible flaws just to prevent them from being as strong as their GR2 counterpart -to not repeat the mistake, in a way.

I agree on the Ahrimanes issue. I'd go as far and say that g2 Ahrimanes aren't very good at all - one awesome star vampire and one decent (Siamese sooo misses ANI, if she had sup ani instead of pre, she'd be golden) backed up by a bunch of rather lacking midcaps.

g4-5, when concentrated on ANI+SPI is way superior, purely they do the same job with much smaller crypt (if you drop that Gentha Shale stinker).

Raznuts wrote:

Carna toolbox g3 even better then the !Tremere

Anastasz Di Zagreb
Ardan Lane
Virstania, The Great mother
Carna
Valois Sang
Cohn Rose

And tons of low-caps with good disciplines.

I think thats pretty terrible imo, most of those guys have only basic dominate, including both of the 8 caps. I like my biggest guys being able to govern down if I am playing dominate, thank you.