Extrala is wrong (Did you know, that ... (Part 91))

One case remains obscure - Fear of the void below + Outside the hourglass + Maneuver to close range + Majesty + Disarm.

I'll issue a ruling by the end of the week - LSJ's rulings seem to indicate Disarm is only usable at close range, and that's where I think the cheapest / best fix would be

Pascal wrote:

I'll issue a ruling by the end of the week - LSJ's rulings seem to indicate Disarm is only usable at close range, and that's where I think the cheapest / best fix would be

I agree with the most simple fix being to say "at close range at the end of the round of combat", but I would like to emphasise that I very much like the idea of Temporis fighters knowing WHEN to disarm or pull the fangs, not WHERE ...

Pascal wrote:

One case remains obscure - Fear of the void below + Outside the hourglass + Maneuver to close range + Majesty + Disarm.

I'll issue a ruling by the end of the week - LSJ's rulings seem to indicate Disarm is only usable at close range, and that's where I think the cheapest / best fix would be

The way I've interpreted it is that a) range doesn't exist before the determine range step, b) damage from Outside the Hourglass isn't done at close or long range and c) Disarm is playable when sufficient damage has been inflicted and the range has been close this round, whether the damage was inflicted at long, close or no range. This is probably wrong but it seems to make the most sense without errata.

Here's a quick list of the rulings:
OtH stands for Outside the Hourglass
Unless written, no other cards are played. Cards are played in the order they are written (from left to right)

- OtH + Majesty + Disarm => Valid.
- OtH + Maneuver to long + Majesty Disarm => Not valid.
- OtH + Alpha Glint + Disram => Valid.
- OtH + Selective Silence + Disarm => Not valid.
- Selective Silence + OtH + Disarm => Not valid.
- OtH + Fear of the Void Below + Majesty + Disarm => Valid.
- Fear of the Void Below + OtH + Majesty + Disarm => Not valid
- OtH when opposing has a Improvised Flamethrower + Maneveur/set range to long => Improvised Flamethrower does not explode.

Basically, Disarm isn't playable at long range (all the Disarm points), and damage is resolved when it is inflicted - we don't retro-check it (last point).

I'm under the impression that slightly changing Disarm from this:

Only usable at the end of a round of combat in which this vampire successfully inflicted more damage at close range than the opposing vampire.

to this:

Only usable at close range at the end of a round of combat in which this vampire successfully inflicted more damage than the opposing vampire.

would be enough. Pulled Fangs would follow the same pattern.