file Akunanse Bleeder

18 Aug 2012 16:57 #35010 by malkavianbarcelona
Crypt: (12 cards, Min: 15, Max: 32, Avg: 5,83)
4 Amavi pre pro ABO ANI FOR8 Akunanse
2 Hasani ABO for 4 Akunanse
1 Jubal ANI ABO pot for6 Akunanse
1 Meno Ngari abo 2 Akunanse
2 Socrate Cidibe ani ABO FOR 5 Akunanse
1 The Kikiyaon abo ani FOR 5 Akunanse
1 Uchenna ABO ANI FOR 7 Akunanse

Library: (86 cards)
Master (15 cards)
1 Animalism
1 Antediluvian Awakening
3 Archon Investigation
2 Mapatano Utando
1 Pentex Subversion
2 Sudden Reversal
5 Villein

Action (12 cards)
2 Well-Marked
2 Wise Spider
2 Force of Will
2 Deep Song
4 Computer Hacking

Action Modifier (21 cards)
2 Daring the Dawn
6 Devil-Channel: Throat
4 Freak Drive
8 Predator`s Mastery
1 Strange Day

Reaction (8 cards)
2 Predator`s Communion
2 Terra Incognita
2 Unseen Hibernation
2 Wake with Evening`s Freshness

Combat (21 cards)
7 Aid from Bats
2 Canine Horde
6 Carrion Crows
4 Skin of Steel
2 Whistling Up the Beast

Equipment (5 cards)
1 Kduva`s Mask
2 Laptop Computer
1 Reliquary: Akunanse Remains
1 Signet of King Saul, The

Event (1 cards)
1 Narrow Minds

Combo (3 cards)
3 Predator`s Transformation

any good idea or counsel to improve this ??

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18 Aug 2012 21:52 #35013 by Dorrinal
Replied by Dorrinal on topic Re: Akunanse Bleeder

  1. How do you intend to oust?
  2. How do you intend to keep from being ousted?
  3. What do you want your ready region to look like (ie, how many guys are you planning on getting out)?
  4. What do you want your average turn to look like?
  5. What's your metagame like? How do your opponents play?
  6. What problems have you observed with the deck in play?


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19 Aug 2012 02:06 - 20 Aug 2012 01:21 #35015 by Adonai
Replied by Adonai on topic Re: Akunanse Bleeder
The December 2005 Akunanse Newsletter had complete advice for building a bleed deck starring Amavi.
www.thelasombra.com/newsletter/akunanse_amavi.htm

More general deckbuilding advice:
www.thelasombra.com/deck-building-theories.htm


Crypt: (12 cards, Min: 15, Max: 32, Avg: 5,83)
4 Amavi :pre: :pro: :ABO: :ANI: :FOR: 8 :akun:
2 Hasani :ABO: :for: 4 :akun:
1 Jubal :ANI: :ABO: :pot: :for: 6 :akun:
1 Meno Ngari :abo: 2 :akun:
2 Socrate Cidibe :ani: :ABO: :FOR: 5 :akun:
1 The Kikiyaon :abo: :ani: :FOR: 5 :akun:
1 Uchenna :ABO: :ANI: :FOR: 7 :akun:

I'd throw in Nkule Galadima and another Uchenna before duplicating vampires that don't have all of your disciplines at the correct level.

See also: Rows and Rows of the Finest Virtuosos

Library: (86 cards)
Master (15 cards)
1 Animalism
1 Antediluvian Awakening
3 Archon Investigation
2 Mapatano Utando
1 Pentex Subversion
2 Sudden Reversal
5 Villein

Giant's Blood and Heidelberg Castle should be in a bleed deck based on permanents long before discipline masters. Antediluvian Awakening is awfully dangerous without Vessels or Blood Dolls. I'd consider them instead of the Animalism discipline master as well. Mbare Market, Harare would also be a good choice to gain pool to counteract the Antediluvians. You seem to be very focused on defending against bleed and powerless against votes. Personally, I'd drop down to 1 Archon Investigation and add some Delaying Tactics.


Action (12 cards)
2 Well-Marked
2 Wise Spider
2 Force of Will
2 Deep Song
4 Computer Hacking

If you go with more Magaji in your crypt, No Secrets From the Magaji makes an amazing action that untaps you immediately and lets you block as though untapped later, saving lots of deck space for non-reaction cards.


Action Modifier (21 cards)
2 Daring the Dawn
6 Devil-Channel: Throat
4 Freak Drive
8 Predator`s Mastery
1 Strange Day

No objections from me here, I'd consider more Freak Drives in my local environment, because until you get The Signet of King Saul, Amavi is very easy to block. You're only going to get your bleeds thru by force of numbers, tapping your prey out on other things (or other minions) then going for the kill. Leverage might also be a good choice, if you can get Amavi tooled up with 3-4 standing bleed, your prey will likely let Dolie or Meno Negari thru on their bleed of one and not bounce or block. Throwing that extra point of pool damage on the expected inconsequential bleed is always nice. It also combines with Predator`s Mastery for an excellent action from an unexpected source.


Reaction (8 cards)
2 Predator`s Communion
2 Terra Incognita
2 Unseen Hibernation
2 Wake with Evening`s Freshness

Wake's should become Predator`s Communion unless your local opponents are likely to be playing Imbued, and even then, you are only worried if they are the only opponent left on the table with you in the 2-player end-game. I've never seen Unseen Hibernation work, play it for a while and see if you can ever play it.


Combat (21 cards)
7 Aid from Bats
2 Canine Horde
6 Carrion Crows
4 Skin of Steel
2 Whistling Up the Beast

Lots of animalism and fortitude, and no Abombwe? Rather than run away, I'm more partial to the additional strength and presses provided by Invoking the Beast. The two copies of Whistling up the Beast aren't too likely to be in your hand at the same time you want to play the Canine Horde, so those might free up some space in your deck.


Equipment (5 cards)
1 Kduva`s Mask
2 Laptop Computer
1 Reliquary: Akunanse Remains
1 Signet of King Saul, The

Things that don't cost pool are better than ones that do. If you have access to them, replace the two Laptop Computers with J. S. Simmons, Esq. and Tasha Morgan. If you don't have access to them, drop one Laptop and replace it with Heidelberg Castle, Germany to allow you to get two uses out of it. You might even consider Codex of the Edenic Groundskeepers as the big threat to leave for your last action to get smaller bleeds thru without blocks or bounces.

See also: Trouble, right here in River City

Event (1 cards)
1 Narrow Minds

A good choice.


Combo (3 cards)
3 Predator`s Transformation

I'm partial to more of these, they cycle easily and you won't have other options for stealth when your prey finally decides to simply leave all of her minions untapped to block you.


Perhaps something like this:


Crypt [12 vampires] Capacity min: 2 max: 8 average: 6
4x Amavi (8):ABO: :ANI: :FOR: :pre: :pro:Akunanse(g4)
1x Nkule Galadima (8):ABO: :FOR: :ani: :aus: :pre:magajiAkunanse(g4)
1x Uchenna (7):ABO: :ANI: :FOR:magajiAkunanse(g4)
1x Jubal (6):ABO: :ANI: :for: :pot:Akunanse(g4)
1x Kikiyaon, The (5):FOR: :abo: :ani:Akunanse(g4)
1x Socrate Cidibe (5):ABO: :FOR: :ani:Akunanse(g4)
1x Hasani (4):ABO: :for:Akunanse(g4)
1x Dolie (3):abo: :ani:Akunanse(g4)
1x Meno Ngari (2):abo:Akunanse(g4)

Library [90 cards]

Action [12]
2x Computer Hacking
2x Deep Song
2x Force of Will
2x No Secrets From the Magaji
2x Well-Marked
2x Wise Spider

Action Modifier [20]
2x Daring the Dawn
6x Devil-Channel: Throat
4x Freak Drive
2x Leverage
5x Predator's Mastery
1x Strange Day

Action Modifier/Combat [5]
5x Predator's Transformation

Combat [21]
6x Aid from Bats
2x Canine Horde
6x Carrion Crows
3x Invoking the Beast
4x Skin of Steel

Equipment [4]
1x Kduva's Mask
1x Laptop Computer
1x Reliquary: Akunanse Remains
1x Signet of King Saul, The

Event [1]
1x Narrow Minds

Master [17]
1x Antediluvian Awakening
1x Archon Investigation
1x Giant's Blood
1x Heidelberg Castle, Germany
2x Mapatano Utando
1x Mbare Market, Harare
1x Pentex(TM) Subversion
2x Sudden Reversal
2x Vessel
5x Villein

Reaction [10]
2x Delaying Tactics
4x Predator's Communion
2x Terra Incognita
2x Unseen Hibernation
Last edit: 20 Aug 2012 01:21 by Adonai.

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19 Aug 2012 07:46 #35019 by malkavianbarcelona
i really like how you tune it ^^ ThKs :P i'm gonna check about the Hibernation

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19 Aug 2012 07:54 #35020 by malkavianbarcelona
i was checking right now, and what if remove villein ( i don't like them too much, if finally they stay this is the first deck i'm gonna use them) and i add 1 more vessel and 3 blood dools and i have one spot to add and aditional archon investigation... what do you think about ??

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19 Aug 2012 08:59 #35021 by Suoli
Replied by Suoli on topic Re: Akunanse Bleeder

any good idea or counsel to improve this ??


You're not playing to the strengths of Akunanse. They can't compete against even half hearted bleed decks, the bleed power just isn't there. Focus on Deep Song, combat and intercept instead. Use the bleed element as a finisher, not a win condition.

Are you planning to play 10+ cards on an average turn? If not, cut the deck to at least 80 cards and lower if possible. It's much better for consistency.

2 Force of Will

2 Daring the Dawn


I don't see very many situations in which a deck like this would get a win because of but not without these. Cut them out, better have something that is always good.

4 Skin of Steel


Prevent cards that always cost a blood and don't prevent Carrion Crows are not that great. Use Rolling with the Punches, Soak and Indomitability instead.

1 Kduva`s Mask


Kduva's Mask is a great source of votes. It's pretty expensive for a Laptop, even with the special. Don't play this unless you're voting.

I hope this helps.

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