file [Submission] 5 new Lasombra

19 Jul 2018 14:13 #89041 by Lech
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Yes, it is bit pricey. On the other hand, it comes with villein + 4 transfers and title. But he really don't canonically have many disciplines, so it's safer to err to the weaker side. It might suck to have 8 cap with no bleed and no bounce, but it's not like other clans have it better. (at the very least he would rot alongside appolonius).

:laso: :CEL: :DOM: :OBT: :POT: :cap8:
Sabbat.Black Hand Shakar: Lech loathe ranged weapons. Once each action, he may burn 1 blood to become Camarilla Prince of Krakow until the end of the action.

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19 Jul 2018 16:53 #89059 by ReverendRevolver
Lin is a dude. Chinese, wears wraparound sunglasses because he likes the image of Arnold from Terminator movies, dresses as what his local authorities consider "western hooligans ".

I'm saddened by the treating of Laibon Lasombra as essentially a tiny chunk of a bloodlines set (although I can see the appeal of it at the time) as they are quite important power players in KotE sources.

Lasombra have strong ties to both Christianity and Islam, using both to rule through, and reputations for naval and later piracy abilities.

At any rate, I can't disagree that I'd like to see the Lasombra as more than S&B fodder, but its sadly what they're good at currently.

The cost of 8 for 2 superiors and an ability that effectively moves out another 4 cap seems fair to me. And it's not limited to Lasombra but all Sabbat. Seems fine.

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19 Jul 2018 18:04 #89066 by Lech
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I'm all for addition of more Laibon Lasombra in each respective grouping (g2, g3, g4, g5, g6). It's not really fair to limit it to just two vampires and call it finished, especially as lasombra have no antitribu and it's camarilla/sabbat/laibon/independent all take the same amount of vampires as just antitribu ventrue making mono-sect crypt hard to make. In ideal world all 13th clan would use lasombra/assamite/setite model instead of their current ones.

We can agree that Lasombra had strong ties to both Christianity and Islam just ot rule,and naval affinity is natural for all lasombra since dawn of civilization. On the other hand, i'm pretty sure they always had ties to ruling religion as they are opportunists, not idealists and use it instrumentally.

Yep, he is. But how did you ruled that 11th generation vampire is fit for 8 capacity? and another 11th (Caridad) is fit for 5th capacity ?

Well, they can get some interesting things if Potence will get more fun toys.

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Sabbat.Black Hand Shakar: Lech loathe ranged weapons. Once each action, he may burn 1 blood to become Camarilla Prince of Krakow until the end of the action.

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19 Jul 2018 19:25 #89069 by ReverendRevolver
I gave up on gen to discipline ratios lining up, since smaller camps are easier to break than big ones and discipline spread diversity enables more decks, so I've for certain made gen 6-9 vamps different caps not aligning with the correlation of gen to cap ratio just due to flavorful abilities and discipline spreads.

Honestly, I find myself shying away from adding skills on certain vamps. Esperanza Lucifer is the coolest fluff of the batch IMO, And her spread streamlined nicely, to the point of me not wanting to mar how nice it is without an ability by giving her a wordy one.

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14 Aug 2019 22:47 - 15 Aug 2019 10:56 #96288 by Lech
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Caridad de Flores
Lasombra G6
:DOM: :OBT:
Sabbat: Actions and reactions that require Dominate cost Caridad an additional blood. Black Hand. :cap4:
(Mexico City by Night, pg 57)

Carlos Griffouliere
Lasombra G6
:OBT: :POT: :cel: :dom: :for:
Sabbat: Predator or Prey with Camarilla vampire may give you 6 pool during her discard phase to take control over Carlos and change his sect to Camarilla. :cap5:
(San Francisco by Night, pg 113)

Consuela Martinez
Lasombra G5
:DOM: :OBT: :POT:
Sabbat: If Consuela send into torpor camarilla vampire, she may burn 1 blood to become bishop or Archbishop of San Francisco if already titled. :cap6:
(Teen spaniard)
(San Francisco by Night, pg 113)

Lin Baloh
Lasombra G6
:DOM: :obt: :pot:
Sabbat: While Lin is bleeding, non-sabbat vampires may burn 1 blood to get +1 intercept. :cap4:
(Clanbook Lasombra, pg 99) There could be archbishop version too.

Father Urban
Lasombra G6
:NEC: :OBT: :aus: :dom: :pot:
Sabbat :cap6:

Zamra Matoub
Lasombra G6
:AUS: :DOM: :OBT: :POT: :for:
Sabbat: If Zamra is ready during your unlock phase, a ready vampire you control can gain 1 blood.Once each action, he may burn 1 blood to get +1 intercept. :cap9:

As Francisco was cardinal in lore, here is fitting ADV version of him:

Francisco Domingo de Polonia, ADV
Lasombra G6
:DOM: :OBT: :POT: :PRE: :pro:
Sabbat Cardinal: Once per turn, you may move 1 blood Francisco to any other sabbat vampire, and give it -1 bleed when bleeding you this turn. :cap9:

Updated vampire groups, G5 can get about one vampire so the 6 capacity one most fitting.

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Sabbat.Black Hand Shakar: Lech loathe ranged weapons. Once each action, he may burn 1 blood to become Camarilla Prince of Krakow until the end of the action.
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15 Aug 2019 08:02 - 15 Aug 2019 11:56 #96291 by Lech
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Maria D'Agostino
Lasombra G6
:DOM: :OBT: :POT:
Sabbat bishop: Maneuvers cost an additional blood in combat against her. She have +1 Strength in first round of combat. :cap7:

Genoese woman, in late teens. (Under the Black Cross, pg 86). There is distinct lack of combat-related specials in Lasombra, so there is one.

Tercio Bravo
Lasombra G6
:CEL: :DOM: :OBT: :POT: :
Sabbat: As Tercio Bravo enters play, you can distribute up to 4 blood from him to any of your uncontrolled Lasombra. +2 Strength. :cap9:

Iberian born man, late 30.(Iberia by Night, pg 118) Sire of Leopold Valdemar, presumed childe of Boukephos (4h generation vampire, presumed dead in 1999, but we can't be really sure about it).

Borges
Lasombra G6
:OBT: :POT: :dom: :cel:
Sabbat Archbishop of Miami: When Borges is in torpor, any sabbat vampire may steal his title as a (D) action. :cap6:

His was the face of an ancient and well-loved mastiff. The upper part of that face was hidden in perpetual shadow. Light could not prevail across the barrier in either direction. Below, however, the lines of cheek and jowl were yet visible, and these clearly showed the wear of passing years. (Clan Novel: Lasombra).

Timofiev
Lasombra G6
:DOM: :OBT: :POT: :aus: :cel: :pre:
Sabbat Cardinal: As Timofiev enters play, you may search your library or hand for a location and put it in play(play cost as normal). :cap10:

Timofiev is described as a dour little man, who seemed perfectly content to slouch around in just anything at all, from hermit's cloak to castoffs taken from last night's prey. He lacked all sense of style, but had unshakable confidence in his power of manipulation. Timofiev spoke with a deep basso rumble that did not match his frame. His shadow form had hawklike head and talons.

:laso: :CEL: :DOM: :OBT: :POT: :cap8:
Sabbat.Black Hand Shakar: Lech loathe ranged weapons. Once each action, he may burn 1 blood to become Camarilla Prince of Krakow until the end of the action.
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