times Telepathic Misdirection, Deflection, and blocking bleeding vampires

20 Jul 2011 14:52 - 11 Feb 2013 10:53 #6539 by grifone_coronato
Hey everyone, I just joined and got back into VTES after about a decade of not playing.

I have a rules question inspired by last night's game with 3 friends. One of them tried to bleed my Predator, but my Predator used Telepathic Misdirection to have that minion bleed me (his Prey) instead.

The question is, am I, as the new target of this bleed, allowed to attempt to block? I said yes, because I should always have an opportunity to defend myself from some form of bleed attempt, but my friends say that by the wording of the card I should not be able to attempt a block.

I ask because the wording is slightly different between Telepathic Misdirection and other bleed bounce cards like Deflection: with Deflection, it is specified that the acting minion is "attempting to bleed" the new Methuselah, whereas Telepathic Misdirection says that the acting minion is "bleeding" the new Methuselah.

So does that mean that with Telepathic Misdirection attempts to block the acting minion are possible, or not?

Thanks everyone!
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20 Jul 2011 15:05 #6540 by Hakuron
Of course you can block! :cheer:
Refer to the rules book, section 6.2.

Plus: the wording of "Telepathic Misdirection" and "Deflection" are now (almost) the same, especially each card reads "The acting minion is now bleeding that methuselah" ...

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20 Jul 2011 15:13 - 20 Jul 2011 15:17 #6541 by Boris The Blade
It's not in the rulebook but yes, you can block.

The key thing is that when the bleed is bounced, a new blocking sequence starts. So you can block and a cross-table Anneke could block even if she had declined before. And if the bleed is bounced back, the original target may attempt to block again even if he declined before.
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20 Jul 2011 16:11 - 20 Jul 2011 16:12 #6547 by Pascal Bertrand

Hey everyone, I just joined and got back into VTES after about a decade of not playing.

I have a rules question inspired by last night's game with 3 friends. One of them tried to bleed my Predator, but my Predator used Telepathic Misdirection to have that minion bleed me (his Prey) instead.

The question is, am I, as the new target of this bleed, allowed to attempt to block?


Everyone gets a new opportunity to block:

[RTR 7/7/7]

3) Normally, there is only one opportunity to block a given action, though
any number of minions can try to block during that window of opportunity.
But if the target of a directed action is changed, this closes the current
window of opportunity and opens a new one, even if the same player as
before would be trying to block.

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