file How long does Tyler's boost bleed or vote lasts?

26 Aug 2013 12:53 - 26 Aug 2013 13:01 #53608 by Ankha
If Tyler burns a blood to get +1 vote, does it last until the end of the turn?

All effects that I have in mind that say "Once each X, Y can do Z to get POW" last the whole duration of X.

Eg. Lydia, Grand Praetor: "Once each action, she can burn 1 blood for +1 stealth."

Explicit restriction: Zayyat, The Sandstorm: "Once each turn, he can burn 2 blood to get +2 stealth for the current action."

See also Aisha vs Andreas, The Bard of Crete (Andreas is correctly worded, not Aisha).

"Once each turn, Aisha may burn 1 blood to get +1 intercept."
"Once each turn, Andreas may burn 1 blood to get +1 intercept for the current action."


Name: Tyler
Cardtype: Vampire
Clan: Brujah
Group: 3
Capacity: 9
Discipline: dom for obt CEL POT PRE
Camarilla primogen: When Tyler diablerizes a vampire, she untaps and gains a blood from the blood bank. Once per turn, she may burn a blood to get +1 bleed or an additional vote.

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27 Aug 2013 06:44 #53634 by Vlad
I would say that it last until the end of the turn even if IANPB ;)
It would have been written until the end of the next action otherwise, no ?

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27 Aug 2013 07:15 #53637 by the1andonlime

I would say that it last until the end of the turn even if IANPB ;)
It would have been written until the end of the next action otherwise, no ?

On that assumption, it could also be permanent, no?


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27 Aug 2013 08:02 #53639 by Ankha

I would say that it last until the end of the turn even if IANPB ;)
It would have been written until the end of the next action otherwise, no ?

On that assumption, it could also be permanent, no?

No, because "Once each turn" implies by default that the effect lasts for the duration of the turn.

Lydia, Grand Praetor doesn't get a permanent +1 stealth each time she uses her special, for instance.

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27 Aug 2013 08:14 - 27 Aug 2013 08:15 #53641 by jhattara
I'd say just for the duration of that one action the ability is used in.

Neither Conditioning nor Bewitching Oration state the duration either and yet we understand it only lasts until the end of the action.

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27 Aug 2013 08:24 #53643 by Pascal Bertrand

If Tyler burns a blood to get +1 vote, does it last until the end of the turn?

Till the end of the action.

All effects that I have in mind that say "Once each X, Y can do Z to get POW" last the whole duration of X.

Eg. Lydia, Grand Praetor: "Once each action, she can burn 1 blood for +1 stealth."

Explicit restriction: Zayyat, The Sandstorm: "Once each turn, he can burn 2 blood to get +2 stealth for the current action."

See also Aisha vs Andreas, The Bard of Crete (Andreas is correctly worded, not Aisha).

"Once each turn, Aisha may burn 1 blood to get +1 intercept."
"Once each turn, Andreas may burn 1 blood to get +1 intercept for the current action."


Name: Tyler
Cardtype: Vampire
Clan: Brujah
Group: 3
Capacity: 9
Discipline: dom for obt CEL POT PRE
Camarilla primogen: When Tyler diablerizes a vampire, she untaps and gains a blood from the blood bank. Once per turn, she may burn a blood to get +1 bleed or an additional vote.

Aisha also lasts till the end of the action.

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