file Sunrise Service?

03 Jun 2013 19:58 #49425 by TorranceCircle
I love the art for this card. I've been looking at cards that make your actions unblockable. Horrific Countenance and Mantle of the Moon are so expensive.

How do you use this card effectively? What is a good way to deal with the agg damage? Does the Sabbat have any actions that are so dangerous that you would want it to have no chance of being blocked? Parity Shift and No Secrets from the Magajii, are two examples of great cards I would go through the trouble of sunrise service but of course these are not usable by Sabbat.

Sunrise Service
[Action] Action
+1 stealth action. Requires a ready Sabbat vampire.
Put this card on the acting vampire; he or she takes one point of aggravated damage (not preventable). You may burn this card when this vampire declares an action to make that action unblockable.

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03 Jun 2013 20:13 - 03 Jun 2013 20:20 #49429 by Ohlmann
Replied by Ohlmann on topic Re: Sunrise Service?
The problem with this card is that it's pretty meh even if the damage wasn't aggravated. It's an action, so at best you use two action for one, and the sunrise service one can be intercepted. And it's previsible.

Now, if you want to use it... Well, Armor of terra work and is on some sabbat vampire (like Rocia), and they multiact. What can they do actually that are worth being unblockable is left to the imagination of the reader (bleed for 2 with computer hacking, awesome !)

Heart of darkness work too, and actually is present on vampire that can do damaging action. You could for example use Black Lotus and Uta Kovacs to have the looming threat of bleed for 7 unblockable. Uta can even use Rutor to multiact. And... That's pretty much it. They aren't titled, so there is not a lot of thing they can do to use unblockability. They aren't big enough for efficient Mind Rape. They could possibly try to torpor people and steal them unblockably with Graverobbing ; that's 4 actions total to steal one people.

There is also two sabbat with serpentis and presence, so you may cast an unblockable KRC, which can be useful but is clearly underwhelming given the setup.
Last edit: 03 Jun 2013 20:20 by Ohlmann.
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04 Jun 2013 03:46 - 04 Jun 2013 03:57 #49436 by ReverendRevolver

The problem with this card is that it's pretty meh even if the damage wasn't aggravated. It's an action, so at best you use two action for one, and the sunrise service one can be intercepted. And it's previsible.

Now, if you want to use it... Well, Armor of terra work and is on some sabbat vampire (like Rocia), and they multiact. What can they do actually that are worth being unblockable is left to the imagination of the reader (bleed for 2 with computer hacking, awesome !)

Heart of darkness work too, and actually is present on vampire that can do damaging action. You could for example use Black Lotus and Uta Kovacs to have the looming threat of bleed for 7 unblockable. Uta can even use Rutor to multiact. And... That's pretty much it. They aren't titled, so there is not a lot of thing they can do to use unblockability. They aren't big enough for efficient Mind Rape. They could possibly try to torpor people and steal them unblockably with Graverobbing ; that's 4 actions total to steal one people.

There is also two sabbat with serpentis and presence, so you may cast an unblockable KRC, which can be useful but is clearly underwhelming given the setup.


Rocia is cam. To date, there is only Erinyi in group 2 who is a non slave sabbat vamp with vis. And shes only got it @ inferior.

Chaundice can use AoT. But as ohlmann said, comouer hacking isnt too exciting. Chaundicr could, i suppose, get anblockable corpse balloon. Yippee skippy.

The black hand abominarion can bleed decent with her standimg abilities, and can have heart of darkness plus big presence. Shes also got obfuscate, which makes it odd youd need to sunrise service her.

The biggest benefit to sunrise servicexis low stealth people. So, Valerious with concordance, or just !tremere, magic of the smith for the codex damnation(i think that gives DAI and reduced cost on dai actions,making you infernal?) And get concordance. Then get rutors hands, so eaxh turn, every minion gets sunrise sercice then bleeds unblockably for 3-7 with dominate, or mind rapes unblockably.

Mindxrapexis the only worthwhile thing i know of for sabbat to do unblockably. If sabbat could sense dep, id say that, but zip is far from having CHI, so thats a no.

Theres lots of redundant to funnish uses, but none that are practical, other than maybe mimd rape tricks with goratrix, recure the homeland, and possibly some rutors hands.
Last edit: 04 Jun 2013 03:57 by ReverendRevolver.

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