Evil Eye - Tremere Grinder

Well, from my perspective the post wasn't useless - I really wondered how the name of the deck came to be.

Regarding Martin's deck - I will ask him about the decklist next time we play.

It's really astounding how much punishment (both blood- and poolwise) the Tremere can take. Try to include Sniper Rifle and Ivory Bow, that way the blocks hurt them more then you.

No worries. And I know all too well what it's like running with 2 bounce disciplines and paying for damage taken with the opposing minion's blood.

Martin Weinmayer was the 1999 and 2009 European Champion. You can find one of his Tremere based tournament winning decks here:
www.thelasombra.com/decks/twd.htm#2k2hungary

Mark Loughman won the US Championship tournament with a similar deck, here:
www.thelasombra.com/decks/twd.htm#2k7genconsaturday

Philippe Lang won a tournament just last month with a variant, here:
www.thelasombra.com/decks/twd.htm#2010rbpfpl

Izaak Havelaar won with a similar deck that was a bit lighter in reactions in 2009:
www.thelasombra.com/decks/twd.htm#2k9germanecq

Simon Reed did it too:
www.thelasombra.com/decks/twd.htm#2k9acclcq


Have you taken a look at how they've implemented their successful decks to see if you could take something from them to improve yours?

Thanks, Jeff, your research skills do impress. I totally put back that karma I took when you posted that Maleficia deck earlier in the thread.

I'll take some time to ponder these deck lists. Question is: why not just play one of them? Simon Reed's deck is already quite close in construction.

The one thing those decks make perfectly clear is that I need to play Direct Intervention.

I have similar deck.


Crypt [12 vampires] Capacity min: 3 max: 7 average: 5

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3x Carna, The Princes 7 AUS DOM THA primogen Tremere:3
2x Selena 6 AUS DOM THA !Tremere:3
1x Aisling Sturbridge 5 AUS THA dom Tremere:2
1x Cohn Rose 5 THA aus dom pre Tremere:3
1x Hannigan 5 AUS THA dom !Tremere:2
1x Blythe Candeleria 3 THA aus Tremere:2
1x Brooke 3 dom tha !Tremere:2
1x Ehrich Weiss 3 dom tha Tremere:3
1x Masika St. John 3 THA Tremere:3

I like have 5 vamps to play Govern at superior. You don't need all those 6 cap with AUS, with 7 of 12 vamps is enough.

Library [80 cards]

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Action [14]
10x Govern the Unaligned
4x Magic of the Smith

Like you but more actions.

Combat [24]
12x Apportation
10x Theft of Vitae
2x Walk of Flame

Walk of flame are good, should play some.

Equipment [6]
1x .44 Magnum
1x Bowl of Convergence
1x Heart of Nizchetus
1x Ivory Bow
1x Kevlar Vest
1x Sport Bike

You should think about add Ivory or .44 for long games.

Master [14]
1x Anarch Troublemaker
1x Arcane Library
4x Blood Doll
2x Dreams of the Sphinx
1x Giant's Blood
1x Pentex(TM) Subversion
1x Powerbase: Montreal
1x Sudden Reversal
1x WMRH Talk Radio
1x Wall Street Night, Financial Newspaper

Reaction [22]
2x Delaying Tactics
6x Eyes of Argus
2x My Enemy's Enemy
4x On the Qui Vive
8x Telepathic Misdirection

It depends on metagame, but Delaying Tactics is needed, you cant stop political with OBF.

Drizmo wrote:

It depends on metagame, but Delaying Tactics is needed, you cant stop political with OBF.

I don't know why you mention Obfuscate here but I found Confusion of the Eye very useful for canceling Parity Shifts or cancel votes of vampires. It is especially funny to cancel the votes of an acting vampire after he played Awe or similar cards.

But of course your call of Delaying Tactics as a back up for failed blocks is a good one.

Joscha wrote:

I don't know why you mention Obfuscate here

Meaning that the Tremere deck won't be able to block a stealth/vote deck.

Joscha wrote:

but I found Confusion of the Eye very useful for canceling Parity Shifts or cancel votes of vampires. It is especially funny to cancel the votes of an acting vampire after he played Awe or similar cards.

Not legal, since CotE must be played before votes are cast.

Kushiel wrote:

Not legal, since CotE must be played before votes are cast.

Oops, my bad. That lowers its usefulness a bit.

Joscha wrote:

I don't know why you mention Obfuscate here

I think he meant stopping a political deck that uses , not using to stop a political deck

Non-existant user wrote:

Joscha wrote:

I don't know why you mention Obfuscate here

I think he meant stopping a political deck that uses , not using to stop a political deck

Yes, I got it now. It was a misunderstanding .