file Malgorzata needs some tuning.

07 Nov 2019 10:53 - 07 Nov 2019 20:43 #97698 by Kain_Silencer
Hello everyone,
Since we found out that thanks to BCP VTES is coming back our local scene has exploded! I myself came back after almost 14 years and the game is just as great as I remember it.
Recently I've tried to build deck based around Malgorzata and it’s not bad but I think it needs some additional fine tuning. It's great at surviving but it doesn't oust its prey fast enough. I usually stay till the end and my prey has <10 pool left but alas no points for that.

1. How do you intend to oust?
Bleeds for 3 from Mistress Fanchon and Lord Tremere, bouncing big bleeds from my predator using Telepathic.
2. How do you intend to keep from being ousted?
Bounces, wakes + intercept cards from auspex + perma cept from Lord Tremere/Radio/GA, "digging" for Ancient Influence/Political Stranglehold
3. What do you want your ready region to look like (ie, how many guys are you planning on getting out)?
1st Mistress then she uses her ability to influence out Mistress or Lord (depending on what I get in crypt and sitting). I hope to have Malgorzata, Mistress and Lord Tremere after 1h.
4. What do you want your average turn to look like?
Mistress Fanchon “digs” for card, Lord Tremere unlocks her. Both bleed for 3, Malgorzata stays unlocked to bounce/block if I don’t feel safe. If I feel safe (unlocks + intercept in hand) she either tries to produce pool with her ability or bleeds for 1 (maybe 2 with changeling)
5. What's your metagame like? How do your opponents play?
We have a group of 10 players and we all have different decks to play so meta changes a lot every time we meet.
6. What problems have you observed with the deck in play?
Well the worst case scenario is if get 4 Malgorzata in uncontrolled and then 5th comes from the top of the crypt. Besides that deck seems to be highly resilient.
Like I mentioned earlier my biggest problem seems I don’t oust quickly enough.

Crypt (12 cards; Capacity min=9 max=11 avg=10.5)
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3x Lord Tremere 11 obe ANI AUS DOM VIC THA Tremere:5
5x Malgorzata 9 pre AUS DOM THA VIC Tremere antitribu:4
3x Mistress Fanchon 11 AUS CEL DOM OBF THA VIC Tremere:4
1x Sha-Ennu 11 obf tha ANI AUS CHI VIC Tzimisce:4


Library: 88 cards
Master (19 cards)
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1x Erciyes Fragments, The
1x Giant's Blood
1x Guardian Angel
1x Information Highway
1x Powerbase: Montreal
1x Rack, The
3x Rötschreck
2x Vessel
4x Villein
1x WMRH Talk Radio
3x Dreams of the Sphinx

Action (1 cards)
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1x Aranthebes, The Immortal

Action Modifier (4 cards)
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4x Changeling


Political Action (3 cards)
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1x Ancient Influence
1x Ancilla Empowerment
1x Political Stranglehold

Combat (25 cards)
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4x Amaranth
3x Rego Motus
8x Theft of Vitae
10x Chiropteran Marauder

Ally (1 cards)
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1x Carlton Van Wyk

Equipment (3 cards)
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1x Heart of Nizchetus
1x Kevlar Vest
1x Bowl of Convergence

Reaction (28 cards)
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4x Enhanced Senses
6x Eyes of Argus
3x Forced Awakening
5x On the Qui Vive
7x Telepathic Misdirection
5x Eagle's Sight

Event (2 cards)
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1x Fourth Cycle, The
1x NSA Trio

Cards I've considered putting in:
Sargon Fragments
Ivory Bow
Chantry
Enkil Cog
But only Enkil helps with oust. The rest are "nice to have"

I look forward to your critique and insight.
Last edit: 07 Nov 2019 20:43 by Kain_Silencer.

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06 May 2020 11:32 #99761 by Poci
Replied by Poci on topic Malgorzata needs some tuning.
this deck archetype has seen a ton of wins, tuned in at least 4-5 different directions. It absolutely depends on what is your meta like. I've seen this with 30-ish red cards, worked like a charm. The deck's main stability is Malgorzata's ability and the fact that you don't need bleed enhancements because of the innate +2s.

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07 May 2020 09:03 #99783 by Kiddo
Replied by Kiddo on topic Malgorzata needs some tuning.
As Poci said, this archetype is very powerful in all its variations. Your version has a bit more reactions and some not often seen masters (like WMRH), but the truth is that it all comes down to your preferences and metagame.

For example, my version has a bit more stealth (Mirror Walks and Changelings), some extra actions (several MotSmiths and a single Rutor's hand, which can be fetched by Mistress) and a bit less combat (with Breaths added).

But again, this is a nice base to build on and tweak, depending on your observations and experience. When it comes to faster ousts, and to bypass weenie/ally problem, perhaps add Anarchist Uprising. Mind Rape could also find its way in the list.

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08 May 2020 09:20 #99785 by ResurrectioN
With Malgorzata and mistress you have 7 votes on the table so Banishment or Ancilla might be worth considering.

As it's mentioned above it depends on meta, but the biggest thing I see as a potential issue is that you have only 4 stealth cards and if your early "Malgorzata special action" is blocked you will be slowed down significantly.

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