check TWD "Cuando el grajo vuela bajo agárrate el badajo". Vitoria (Spain)

14 Sep 2014 18:47 - 11 Oct 2014 13:59 #65444 by kakarot
Name:"Amigo Baali"

Player:Josu Guinea

Event Location: San Vicente de Paúl, 10. Vitoria (Álava).01003

Players:9

Rounds: 3R+F



CRYPT(12)

4 x The Horde -3- dai ofu pre (baali gr.6)

3 x Arishat -6-DAI OFU PRE (baali gr.6)

2 x Xeper, Sultan of Lepers -7- OFU PRE dai pro ani (baali gr.6)

3 x Annazir -9- PRE DAI OFU POT (baali gr.5)



LIBRARY (66)



MASTER(14)

5 x Tend the Flock

1 x Pentex Subversion

1 x Sudden Reversal

4 x Villein

1 x Ruins of Charizel

1 x Giant´s Blood

1 x Dreams of the Sphinx



ACTIONS (5)

2 x Legal Manipulations

2 x Condemnation: Mute

1 x Unleash Hell´s Fury



EQUIP (1)

1 x Kaymakli Fragment



POLITICAL ACIONS (17)

2 x Reinforcements

6 x Kine Resources Contested

4 x Reckless Agitation

1 x Ancilla Empowerment

4 x My Kin Against the World



MODIFIERS (18)

1 x Spying Mission

2 x Bewiching Oration

4 x Voter Captivation

2 x Forgotten Labyrinth

6 x Lost in Crowds

2 x Elder Impersonation

1 x Cloack the Gathering



COMBO (7)

5 x Sense the Sin

2 x Swallowed by the Night



COMBAT (4)

2 x Majesty

1 x Staredown

1 x Conflagration



Some missing card like Veneficty.

Bye! [Smile]
Last edit: 11 Oct 2014 13:59 by Ankha.
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15 Sep 2014 16:32 #65461 by Jeff Kuta
I very much like the use of My Kin Against the World to get more value for your infernal penalty, or for a second (or third!) opportunity to boost bleeds from all your Hordes in a single turn.

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15 Sep 2014 16:46 #65463 by Squidalot
also this is 9 players - are we still working to 10 for TWDA?
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16 Sep 2014 04:06 #65470 by Ankha

also this is 9 players - are we still working to 10 for TWDA?

Yes.

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16 Sep 2014 04:08 #65471 by Ankha

I very much like the use of My Kin Against the World to get more value for your infernal penalty, or for a second (or third!) opportunity to boost bleeds from all your Hordes in a single turn.

I think it's a bad idea because 1/ it costs blood in a deck that has little blood (even with the Voter Captivation -- you don't have that much votes to make it pass by large amount) 2/ it costs a political action, and the political actions are almost the only way to cause decent damage to the prey in this deck.
I've tried it, I find it a bad idea.

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16 Sep 2014 17:48 #65487 by ReverendRevolver

I very much like the use of My Kin Against the World to get more value for your infernal penalty, or for a second (or third!) opportunity to boost bleeds from all your Hordes in a single turn.

I think it's a bad idea because 1/ it costs blood in a deck that has little blood (even with the Voter Captivation -- you don't have that much votes to make it pass by large amount) 2/ it costs a political action, and the political actions are almost the only way to cause decent damage to the prey in this deck.
I've tried it, I find it a bad idea.



Its a build that you have to play knowing other vote decks make you lose half your plan. Condemnation mute and Arishats special arw your only standing help against good voters. So, 2 minions with votes, 2 ways to negate votes, and whatever cards you play. It can go great, but the risk is large. So, its mostly meta, I guess.

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16 Sep 2014 21:05 #65492 by Jeff Kuta
Annazir has +1 bleed and a built-in steal location or equipment special.

Xeper has a built-in steal ally special.

While neither special directly ousts, it seems they are going to frequently be worthwhile actions to take. MKAtW as multi-acting makes some kind of sense, especially with Condemnation: Mute.

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17 Sep 2014 04:14 #65496 by Ankha

Annazir has +1 bleed and a built-in steal location or equipment special.

Xeper has a built-in steal ally special.

While neither special directly ousts, it seems they are going to frequently be worthwhile actions to take. MKAtW as multi-acting makes some kind of sense, especially with Condemnation: Mute.

Sure, multiacting is great. But using a political card that costs blood and that requires the oldest vampire to play is not a good way to achieve this, at least in this kind of deck.

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17 Sep 2014 14:27 #65517 by Jeff Kuta

Sure, multiacting is great. But using a political card that costs blood and that requires the oldest vampire to play is not a good way to achieve this, at least in this kind of deck.[/quote]

Someone is having success with it. That's a good sign the idea merits further exploration.

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17 Sep 2014 14:44 - 17 Sep 2014 14:47 #65520 by Ankha

Someone is having success with it. That's a good sign the idea merits further exploration.

Is it?
The smaller the tournament, the higher the chance of winning it whatever the deck (because it's far easier to reach the final). It's one of the reason why the TWDA don't include tournaments with less than 10 players.

I'm not saying that the deck is bad, but I'd rather hear Josu say that MKAtW was a great addition and explain the context rather than conclude that it is good because it has won a 9-players tournament.

(An extreme example would be someone playing plenty of copies of a clanhoser and winning a tournament because his prey plays that clan. Is the clanhoser a good card because someone won one tournament with it?)

Anyway, I've given my opinion based on my numerous attempts to use that card in the exact same kind of deck.

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