card idea: Curst greed

Name: Curst greed
Cardtype: Master Out-of-turn
When a Methuselah would gain more than two pool from one single source (edit:other than having ousted his prey,) he burns that much pool instead.
(edit: Not usable during an oust or unique political action.)



After reading a lot of posts about what cards are overpowered I see a tendency towards cards that generates a lot of pool at once. Without having read all card ideas posted in this thread in full detail, I have not found any card with a similar simple mechanic. It doesnt render Villein or Parity Shift completely useless, but you would have to bloat more careful. It is alike to what Archon Investigation does for bleeds. Posing a risk if you want too much at once.

Just a quick idea in the midst of the night, but i would like to throw it in for discussion.

cmdrKEEN wrote:

Name: Curst greed
Cardtype: Master Out-of-turn
When a Methuselah would gain more than two pool from one single source other than having ousted his prey, he burns that much pool instead.

After reading a lot of posts about what cards are overpowered I see a tendency towards cards that generates a lot of pool at once. Without having read all card ideas posted in this thread in full detail, I have not found any card with a similar simple mechanic. It doesnt render Villein or Parity Shift completely useless, but you would have to bloat more careful. It is alike to what Archon Investigation does for bleeds. Posing a risk if you want too much at once.

Abusive in Madness Network and Enkil Cog decks that can do ridiculous amounts of pool "damage" with Ancient Influence, Reins of Power, and Political Stranglehold.

I like a lot better the Ankha wording. I would change twothings :

* 2 counter per turn, not 1. It would be already plenty harsh for deck that bloat as a defense.
* work on only one methuselah, because separating the blood for every methuselah on only one card seem problematic.


In addition, since this card seem to help mainly stealth bleed and power bleed, maybe make it burn if you bleed too much or something ?

Ankha wrote:

What about not dealing damage, but delaying the gain?

Put this card into play.
When a Methuselah would gain more than two pool from one single source other than having ousted his prey, he or she gains 2 pool and put the rest of this card instead. During each Methuselah's untap phase, he or she may move 1 counter from this card to his or her pool. (+text to avoid contest/multiple copies in play)

So you don't get killed by gaining pool, and the pool you would gain will benefit the whole table in fact (even if you get 2 pool first).

I don't say it's a good card, but it seems less prone to combo than your suggestion.

I wish The Rising were more playable.

I like the mechanic, but that would very much take away the simplicity of this card. And would be a different card altogether.

Maybe just denying the poolgain instead of turning it into pooldamage would be enough, but it would not be as much of a thread for someone who already has a lot of pool and just wants to gain (a lot) more at once.

What about adding a "not usable during actions that may only be played once a game". Makes the text longer and less intuitive that I would like, but would eleminate the abuses echiang pointed out.

Are there more cases this card could be abused? Are there possibilities to give another methuselah large amounts of pool when not your turn besides other Out-of-turn Masters?

What about if cards like golconda are played?

first post updated:
Name: Curst greed
Cardtype: Master Out-of-turn
When a Methuselah would gain more than two pool from one single source he burns that much pool instead.
Not usable during an oust or unique political action.