file Roaming pack

26 Dec 2011 21:18 - 26 Dec 2011 21:20 #19373 by Ohlmann
Roaming pack was created by Ohlmann
Roaming pack
Cardtype : action
Cost 1 blood.
+1 stealth
Require a sabbat vampire. Each Methuselah can control only one Roaming Pack.
Put this card on this vampire.
At the beginning of the untap of your prey, put a counter from your prey pool to this card. When this card have five counter, or this vampire enter or cancel a combat, burn this card.
Any minion can enter combat with this vampire as a +2 stealth action.

The idea is to invert the role : force your prey to attack you instead of you sniping theirs vampires. You lose control of the target, but you make your opponent use action against you, so even a S:CE will not be too much of a problem.

The rush against this vampire is at +2 stealth to avoid Neighbor John or that kind of thing to prevent the burn of this card too easily.

The "one per methuselah" is to avoid some kind of weenie rush where you swarm your opponent with 5+ roaming pack the same turn. It would be fitting for the Sabbat, but problematic in term of balance.

The auto-burn condition is to avoid it replacing Army of Rat (in addition to the burn action being +2 stealth). Anyway 5 pool damage for one action is nothing to scoff at.

The "burn on canceling combat" is here to avoid Obedience being a must with this.

It may still be too good with !ventrue, or maybe even !salubri. It's hard to tell, but it feel less powerful than smiling jack or army of rat for blocky decks.
Last edit: 26 Dec 2011 21:20 by Ohlmann.

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27 Dec 2011 04:06 - 27 Dec 2011 04:07 #19384 by jAvel
Replied by jAvel on topic Re: Roaming pack
The most obvious combo with this card is Roaming pack + Secure Heaven. So I suggest to change text a bit:
Any minion can enter combat with this vampire as a +2 stealth action. Any minion can burn this card as +2 stealth (d) action. If that action is successful, the acting minion enters combat with this vampire. (and optionally) Acting minion can't play strike card first round of resulting combat.
Last edit: 27 Dec 2011 04:07 by jAvel.

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27 Dec 2011 06:57 #19386 by Ohlmann
Replied by Ohlmann on topic Re: Roaming pack
I would more add something like "burn all haven on this vampire". Zaire Ferry does also cause trouble for the same reason. Both may be combined, in order to be real sure.

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27 Dec 2011 22:45 - 28 Dec 2011 00:46 #19420 by Adonai
Replied by Adonai on topic Re: Roaming pack

Roaming pack
Cardtype : action
Cost 1 blood.
+1 stealth
Require a sabbat vampire. Each Methuselah can control only one Roaming Pack.
Put this card on this vampire.
At the beginning of the untap of your prey, put a counter from your prey pool to this card. When this card have five counter, or this vampire enter or cancel a combat, burn this card.
Any minion can enter combat with this vampire as a +2 stealth action.


Ambrosio Luis Monçada's favorite new card.
Burn a pool, or spend a pool to come fight me.
Arms of the Abyss , Entombment ready here for you.

Throw in a San Nicolás de los Servitas for good measure, as well.
Last edit: 28 Dec 2011 00:46 by Adonai.
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28 Dec 2011 04:54 #19441 by jAvel
Replied by jAvel on topic Re: Roaming pack
That's why I propose to change text from "enter combat with vampire" to "burn this card". This change makes action diected on a card, not vampire, so Ambrosio Luis Monçada, Zaire Ferry, Secure Heaven and other vampire-protection effects don't work.

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