Submission [Melee Weapon Package]

Juggernaut1981 wrote:

Any Old Thing
Combat
Burn an item of non-location non-vehicle equipment to strike: strength, ranged.
As above, but Strike: Strength +2, ranged.

Not particularly worthwhile, overall. Earthshock is overall quite similar, and arguably better - though you might particularly dislike using a blood. Using up a weapon is expensive, unless it's a Weighted Walking Stick, at which point you could just as easily be using Torn Signpost + Earthshock for extra damage at inferior. Once you got to superior, TS+E would be doing strength+3 damage, vs strength+2. Make it a radically different discipline package (basically, not Potence, given Earthshock) or to, say, something like Anarchs, there might be some interesting design scope. But with Pot/Cel, it just seems more than a little redundant.

In terms of theme, it also doesn't seem like using any old thing! Walking into a combat with a Baseball Bat or Broadsword or Dagger isn't improvising something from a fight scene using a household object. Pretty much the exact reverse. Things like Thrown Gate are much more representative of "We're fighting here and I grabbed a bit of scenery to impale you".

Actually it was the idea of using other things like:

- Camera Phone
- Leather Jacket
- IR Goggles
- non-weapon things...

Juggernaut1981 wrote:

Actually it was the idea of using other things like:

- Camera Phone
- Leather Jacket
- IR Goggles
- non-weapon things...

Although that includes some free options, I'd argue that's probably worse overall than using a weapon. A weapon might have been equipped with Disguised/Concealed Weapon. Cameraphones and Body Bags and Goggles are generally taking up an action. And it's still not clear that it's worth blowing one of those up instead of just using Earthshock. Or, plausibly, just using Thrown Gate, Sacrament of Carnage or Thrown Sewer Lid - none of which are strength based, obviously, and each of which is slightly different (e.g. Lid is ranged only), but none of which is terrible. And, being ranged, all of these options can't be used under IG if you find yourself at close range (a common enough complaint about Earthshock, back in the day - if you include a few to use against Celeritous Gun users, it's hard to cycle under IG). But it just doesn't feel like an exciting niche to explore for Potence.

Obviously, you would get massive style points for throwing an Anarch Manifesto at Arika's head. Which would almost make it worth creating, just for that...

Just to point that some melee weapon issues have been answered with a beast like Ivan Kreyenko Merged.

You now have all in the same guy : free equipment fetcher, basically free weapon, for enabling good disguised weapon (free sengir dagger, free crimson sentinel etc...) and +2 strength and potence for style points !

And the new tool to trumps S:CE (Hall of mirror)