file [Submission] Simultaneus VTES

02 Feb 2020 20:11 - 02 Feb 2020 20:40 #98866 by Lech
It's attempt to modernize vtes without changes to existing cards.

All phases are for every player. First player (first is determined at random) can perform actions first, then impulse is passed to his prey until all players pass. Then next phase is executed.

So to sum it up:
Unlock (all players unlock their cards, then impulse move around until everyone pass)

Master (all players play master cards as impulse move around until everyone pass)

Minion (all players perform actions as impulse move around, if you pass you still get impulse in next go if anyone else perform an action, YOU CAN PLAY OOT MASTERS when impulse is under another player control)

Influence (all players have 5 transfers, influencing out vampire cost 1 transfer, rest is unchanged, performed as impulse move around until everyone pass)

Discard (all players discard their cards/play events as impulse move around until everyone pass)

Only problematic part are some cards like:
Baseball Bat -- Type: Equipment -- Cost: 1 pool
Melee weapon. Do not replace until after this action.
Strength+1 damage each strike. If the action to equip with the Baseball Bat is successful, unlock the acting minion at the end of the turn.
Sets: TR:C, HttB:PSal5

Ambrosio Luis Monçada, Plenipotentiary. Clan: Lasombra Group: 2 Capacity: 10 aus for DOM OBT POT PRE
Sabbat cardinal: Monçada cannot block. Other Methuselahs' actions targeting Monçada cost an additional pool. If Monçada is ready during your discard phase, he can unlock another ready Lasombra.
Sets: SW:U

Possible out is errating those to work when you pass impulse (wording it with during, so you can do it once per turn and ...

Eluding the Arms of Morpheus -- Type: Reaction -- Cost: 1 blood
Only usable by a locked vampire.
This vampire unlocks and attempts to block.
Sets: LotN:C/PG2/PS2, KoT:C

It definitely should make the vampire unable to act this turn, as most wakes.

It's open for discussion/criticism.

Of course it could be also coupled with modern mulligan (put any number of cards from hand aside, draw replacement card and shuffle library with mulliganed cards), and/or introduce new card type playable in minion phase not as an action, but it's sideline.

Moreover for fuck sake, why this forum don't have dark theme? My eyes burns.

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Sabbat.Black Hand Shakar: Lech loathe ranged weapons. Once each action, he may burn 1 blood to become Camarilla Prince of Krakow until the end of the action.
Last edit: 02 Feb 2020 20:40 by Lech.

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03 Feb 2020 05:13 #98868 by LivesByProxy
Why?

I wish VTES games would let us build faster and end sooner, but that would probably require a lot of changes to cards and/or new cards and/or new/changed rules.

Also, look up Dark Reader add-on for FireFox. Makes every website look like Secret Library.

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03 Feb 2020 07:47 #98871 by Lech
Replied by Lech on topic [Submission] Simultaneus VTES
Why ? To spice things up. It was meant for possible storyline and for faster paced 3 players variant.

Also, stealing impulse (even just for one action) could be a thing. It would also deal with Enkil's Cog/Madness Network NRA.

If the impulse would allow finite amount of actions (for example 1-3 action then forcible moving to your prey), swarm decks would play differently.

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03 Feb 2020 09:27 #98873 by Ankha
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Is it really faster? I imagine that players will keep waiting on each other because you don't want to be the first to tap out.

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03 Feb 2020 10:09 #98874 by Lech
Replied by Lech on topic [Submission] Simultaneus VTES
Should be faster for 3 players, as there is more dynamic and less stalling. Due to moving impulse, people can spend their actions which should speed up the game and make less 1vs2 gameplay choices.

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06 Feb 2020 18:03 #98898 by Lönkka
Just out of curiosity:
Did you already try it out with mates?
Or is this still purely theoretical?

Also, the forum used to have black and red there and it was horrible. This is way better... :)

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