State of the V:EKN: News from the printshop

I confused and saddened that we live in a world were it can be legal to distribute a PDF but not print said PDF on pieces of cardboard and give them to others. :/

Thanks Johannes, for the news....

A mixed blessing, but this was what I had been asking for - a decision to ignore the POD path (at least for the time being), and finally get new cards out, even in the less preferred PDF format.

Again: Thanks for your efforts thus far, and let's hope players out there can enjoy Danse Macabre, even if it will not be "real cards".

johannes wrote:

hodgestar wrote:

I confused and saddened that we live in a world were it can be legal to distribute a PDF but not print said PDF on pieces of cardboard and give them to others. :/

The former is done completely non-profit as fan-based content (which we have permission to do) and the latter would be run by a company for a profit. Pretty simple

Its still dissappointing. Its not as though the IP is turning profit otherwise. Its not as though there needs to be design effort on the ip holders. A not for profit group of volunteers has done all the legwork for the fist set, and its just about getting money for the product being printed. Royalties for the ip of vampire are deckmaster, print and such costs for onebookshelf, and maybe something for artists.

Its really a shame the companies couldnt be bothered to make some amount of money for little more than oking someone else to do the work for them, with zero actual risk for anyone other than drive thru cards.

So, im back to where i was after CCP announced the game was dead in new orleans. I can keep playing. Im not getting cards cheaper than i see them now, theyre gonna go up. I cant get new players (who wants a suboptimal card pool if they spend 3 months understanding the game? Who wants a new hobby where its like mtg with more strategies and no cash or card prizes?).

I still greatly appreciate the efforts of the DT. Seriously, you folks have busted your balls to make this game stay alive. And half the online community seemed to bitch about some part of this. Im excited to see the indy set still.

But im quite pissed that all of that work and they get stuck on computer paper with the artists getting nothing, and a game that cant get staple cards to a playerbase thats gonna shrink.

Also, Johannes, thank you for posting this. I would have hid in a cave, sent bribes to soften the blow, and then reported it anonymously. Bad news is always bad. Even thr impatient people wouldve rather heard today that pod starts soon than pod starts never, watch for pdf sets.

Lots of doors just closed. A very sad day for vtes and Garfeild games in general.

is there a specific stumbling block that has brought us to this impasse?

I'm not so much disappointed as afraid for the game's future.
Over in my neck of the woods, playing with cards printed out from PDF files reduces the prestige of the game, resulting in an even higher barrier for entry.

Thanks to all who have been involved in the entire process for the past few months, and to those who have done their part in keeping the game alive. Hopefully it'll all work out in the end.

At last a good news : Danse Macabre in pdf !!!

self wrote:

is there a specific stumbling block that has brought us to this impasse?

That's probably available on need to know basis if you're part of CCP or WotC.

Vlad wrote:

At last a good news : Danse Macabre in pdf !!!

Seconded mate. At last we see new cards.

I'd have preferred the POD-way, but we waited long enough now (and our representatives worked hard enough) for it. When it is not going to happen we have to move on.
And here we go.

at last some news. This waiting lasts much too long, we need new cards, whatever the format will be.
I assume, there is no more obstacles in releasing Danse Macabre now, so the question is: when it will be done?