file Lunatic Eruption + untap

22 Feb 2013 20:22 #45475 by Whisker
Name: Lunatic Eruption
[SW:R, Third:R]
Cardtype: Action
Cost: 2 blood
Discipline: Dementation
[dem] (D) Put this card on any ready minion. During his or her minion phase, the minion with this card must enter combat with a ready minion controlled by his or her prey as a (D) action (unless the minion must hunt). Any minion may burn this card as an action.
[DEM] As above, and the minion taking the action to burn this card takes 1 unpreventable damage when this card is burned.
Artist: Steve Prescott

Is the 'rush' action provided by the card an on going effect or once per turn thingie? What happens if vampire untaps (freak drive etc.) after Lunatic Eruption's mandatory enter combat action?

1. It's once per turn, do what you like.
2. On going effect, rush again.
3. Something else?

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22 Feb 2013 20:55 #45476 by kombainas
"Put this card" part makes rush-once-a-turn. "Must" part should make your vampire unable to do anything if she was blocked, since she did not enter combat "as a D action". If she hunted or was not blocked entering combat, she fulfilled the requirement and should be able to do whatever she pleases.

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22 Feb 2013 21:41 #45477 by Suoli
Replied by Suoli on topic Re: Lunatic Eruption + untap

"Put this card" part makes rush-once-a-turn. "Must" part should make your vampire unable to do anything if she was blocked, since she did not enter combat "as a D action". If she hunted or was not blocked entering combat, she fulfilled the requirement and should be able to do whatever she pleases.


An unsuccessful attempt still counts as a "performed" action and "performing" is what the rule on mandatory actions cares about.

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22 Feb 2013 22:05 #45478 by jhattara
This: 1. It's once per turn, do what you like.

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23 Feb 2013 12:03 #45481 by Hakuron
And here is the explanation (from the latest RTR):

Rulebook updates:

Terminology (11):

“During X, do Y”:
The “during X do Y” template is used in several cards. When this template is used, only one Y can be done per X with this card. For instance, you may move blood from your vampire to your pool with Vessel only once per untap phase.



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03 Apr 2013 06:24 - 03 Apr 2013 06:27 #46508 by AriusZet
Isn't lunatic eruption a mandatory action?

I think that since it's mandatory action (unless the vampire must hunt, you have to attempt an attack.

edit: you cannot burn that card with an other vampire of yours first, since mandatory actions are going first. If i interpret the rules correctly

After the attempt to enter combat, the vampire with lunatic eruption uses freak drive / helicopter etc to untap.

But since he/she has a mandatory action, and he/she already attempted that action, and still have some blood (so he/she don't have to hunt, he/she cannot attempt any more actions, the vampire is stuck

Am i right?
Last edit: 03 Apr 2013 06:27 by AriusZet.

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