Hostile Takeover et al.

jamesatzephyr wrote:

If the players cannot agree who said it first, call the judge over. [LSJ 20080701]

I hope I'm not the only one who thinks this is problematic. The bidding order can decide games (major finals, even) and a lack of sequencing leaves too much room for ambiguity.

Suoli wrote:

jamesatzephyr wrote:

If the players cannot agree who said it first, call the judge over. [LSJ 20080701]

I hope I'm not the only one who thinks this is problematic. The bidding order can decide games (major finals, even) and a lack of sequencing leaves too much room for ambiguity.

In a major final, there will be a judge present and a lot of witnesses if it seems necessary.

In every other cases, having a sequencing rule will lead to time consumming.

Timo wrote:

In a major final, there will be a judge present and a lot of witnesses if it seems necessary.

In every other cases, having a sequencing rule will lead to time consumming.

Two or more people can still start their sentences at the same time, intentionally or not. Or at least close enough that it's impossible to tell who bid first. I'm not saying that there's a chance to cheat or argue, I'm saying that bidding legally can lead to coin flip situations.

As for time consumption, it doesn't take long to say "pass" or "pass and skip my bidding turns".

This might not actually be an enormous problem, auctions don't come up very often. Still, making certain cards have time sensitive mechanics seems out of place in a turn based game.

I believe beer would solve such problem. Drink before the game, dull your reaction and there, you just would not react at the same speed. Adjust the amount of alcohol as needed.

Suoli wrote:

I hope I'm not the only one who thinks this is problematic. The bidding order can decide games (major finals, even) and a lack of sequencing leaves too much room for ambiguity.

Since the exact same problem can come up during polling for every referendum in the game, I imagine you could just use the exact same solution you've used for that.

jamesatzephyr wrote:

Since the exact same problem can come up during polling for every referendum in the game, I imagine you could just use the exact same solution you've used for that.

If two people cast their votes at the same time, there is no problem - the end result is the same as them casting their votes one by one. If two people bid 3 pool at the same time, there very clearly is a conflict.