file Multiple actions in Torpor

15 Aug 2013 13:39 #53253 by Trigger
I have a question on the chain of these cards.

Let’s say a Vampire in play taps and bleeds his prey successfully.
The Vampire can then play Force of Will, right?

Force of Will, Action
Only usable by a tapped vampire.
[for] (D) Bleed with +1 bleed. This vampire takes 2 points of aggravated damage (damage not preventable) even if the action is blocked. Damage occurs after the action or combat is resolved.
[FOR] As above, but with +2 bleed, and the acting vampire takes only 1 point of aggravated damage (damage not preventable).


Either successful or not, the Vampire goes to Torpor tapped.
Can you then play Movement of the Slow Body?

Movement of the Slow Body
+2 stealth action. Only usable by a tapped vampire in torpor[pro] The acting vampire untaps. If this action is blocked, there is no combat. If the blocking minion is a vampire, he or she gets the opportunity to diablerize this acting vampire.
[PRO] As above, and this vampire also gains 1 blood from the blood bank.


If he untaps can you theoretically play Rapid Healing?

Rapid Healing
+1 stealth action. Only usable by a vampire in torpor.
[for] The acting vampire leaves torpor. If the vampire is blocked, there is no combat. If the blocking minion is a vampire who can commit diablerie, that vampire may diablerize the acting vampire.
[FOR] As above, and the vampire leaving torpor gains 1 blood from the blood bank.


So now the vampire is back in play tapped? If you had more cards of the same, can this cycle go again starting with Force of Will?

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15 Aug 2013 13:50 #53254 by Ohlmann
You cannot play Force of will because of the NRA action which prevent you from doing another bleed in the same turn.

If you tapped for a non-bleed action, you could do the force of will / rapid healing / movement of the slow body shenanigan, but then you would be unable to play another Force of Will.

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15 Aug 2013 13:58 #53255 by Trigger
Oh ya, forgot the 1 bleed action. So starting with a non-bleed action, then bleed with force of will, movement of the slow body, rapid healing, then were all good to play any non-bleed card while tapped. Got it. Thanks!

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15 Aug 2013 14:27 #53258 by TorranceCircle
A good chain using these cards is to have two vamps. Vamp A recruits or equips with a bleed modifier permanent (like Tasha Morgan or Laptop Computer). Vamp A then bleeds with with Force of Will, Movement of the Slow Body, Rapid healing. Vamp B takes an action to take the Laptop or some other action to tap. Then Vamp B bleeds with the FoW, MotSB, RH chain.

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15 Aug 2013 14:27 #53259 by jamesatzephyr

If you had more cards of the same, can this cycle go again starting with Force of Will?

If you tapped for a non-bleed action, you could do the force of will / rapid healing / movement of the slow body shenanigan, but then you would be unable to play another Force of Will.


And you wouldn't be able to precisely repeat the Rapid Healing / Moevment of the Slow Body trick, because you can't take the same action (by card name) with the same minion in the same turn. (But you could take other similar actions.)

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16 Aug 2013 10:16 #53299 by Pascal Bertrand
Correct answers from Ohlmann and jamesatzephyr.

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