Talaq+theft+flames /golconda+torpor

is torpor controlled?


can talaq bloat with theft of vitae and bumsrush to flames of the netherworld??


There is no limit to an Ally's life (if some effect gives an Ally more life than it started with, the excess does not drain off). [TOM 19960604]

Talaq, The Immortal
[Ally] Ally

[3 Pool]

Unique mage with 3 life. 0 strength, 0 bleed.
Talaq may strike for 1R damage. Talaq may play cards that require basic Quietus [qui] or basic Thaumaturgy [tha] as a vampire with a capacity of 3. Talaq gets an optional maneuver each combat.

Artist(s): Rob Alexander

Set(s): AH:R2, Tenth:B, Third:PTr



Flames of the Netherworld
[Combat] Combat

[Daimoinon] Daimoinon
[Thaumaturgy] Thaumaturgy

[tha] Only usable at long range. This vampire burns 1 blood to strike for 1R aggravated damage.
[dai] Strike: 1 aggravated damage.
[DAI] Strike: 1R aggravated damage.

Artist(s): Sandra Chang-Adair

Set(s): HttB:C

Ignore all "burn blood" effects entirely. [TOM 19960326] ?????

Theft of Vitae
[Combat] Combat

[Thaumaturgy] Thaumaturgy

[tha] Strike: ranged. Steal 1 blood.
[THA] Strike: ranged. Steal 2 blood.

The blood is the life!
The blood is the life!
Bram Stoker, Dracula

Artist(s): Ron Spencer; Michael Astrachan; Ron Spenser

Set(s): Jyhad:C, VTES:C, Sabbat:C, CE:C/PTr5, BH:PTr5, KMW:PB6, Third:C/PTr6, KoT:C

Ankha wrote:

mirddes wrote:

to flames of the netherworld??

He can't burn blood so he can't play Flames of the Netherworld.

Incorrect.

[LSJ 2010511]

LSJ wrote:

> Can Samuel Haight/ Talaq, The Immortal/ Rafastio Ghoul play Flames of
> the Netherworld at thaumaturgy?
Yes.

> So can ally burn blood/(life) as a vampire when it plays combat card?
As a vampire, the ally can, yes. [1.6.3]

thankyou.

how does talaq get agg damage?

hawg and walk of flames? surely there are more options.

mirddes wrote:

how does talaq get agg damage?

Mostly, he doesn't, because people don't play him. His lack of bleed abilities make him fairly expensive for what he is.

However, Flames of the Netherworld works, as above.

Burst of Sunlight, which sees him as a vampire so he takes the 1 agg damage(*) - but allies just burn a life for agg damage, so if you're willing to lose a life anyway, you can use that.

If you really want to go to a second ruond, you don't need a Hawg to press. You could use combat cards. But going to a second round is usually terrible, and Talaq has no good answer to S:CE anyway, so you should probably avoid doing this.



(*) Be careful if Googling for Talaq and Burst. The ruling has changed at points in the past.