Mithras

Hi

My playgroup and I were showing new printable cards to an old player and he asked us "what about Mithras, is he titled as the old vampires are(X has y votes = titled) or his wording is deliberate into him not being titled?

We couldn't give him a clear ansker so I ask here.

Mithras
Ventrue
Group 3
Capacity 11
DOM FOR POT PRE QUI
Camarilla. Mithras gets +2 votes. Once each action he performs, he can burn 2 blood to cancel a reaction card played by a younger vampire, and it´s cost is not payed. +1 strength. +2 bleed.

Many thanks in advance.

As far as know, he's not titled. The text of title vampires are "has x votes (titled)"

Mithras' text is "gets +2 votes"

I think he can even become an anarch and mantain these votes.

Nac wrote:

My playgroup and I were showing new printable cards to an old player and he asked us "what about Mithras, is he titled as the old vampires are(X has y votes = titled) or his wording is deliberate into him not being titled?

It's not a title.

By the rulebook, currently the "X has 2 votes" titles apply to Independent vampires - and they've pretty much all been retemplated to point this out.

Rulebook, wrote:

Some Independent vampires may start with votes, as listed on card text. Treat these vampires as if they had titles of their own.

Mithras's text is more like the special ability text on Eze : "Laibon magaji: Eze gets 1 additional vote."

Eze has a title (which Mithras doesn't), but Eze also has an additional vote. If Eze loses his magaji title somehow, he still has an additional vote. If Eze changes to a different title somehow, he still has an additional vote.

Mithras is the same, except he doesn't already have a title. If Mithras becomes a Prince, he'd be able to cast 4 votes innately - 2 from the Prince, +2 from his special.